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De: BARILOCHENSE6999  (Mensaje original) Enviado: 15/06/2011 00:03

THE COUNT TO PENTECOST “PROVES” LUNAR SABBATHS

The only way the Hebrew speaking Jews and the Greek speaking Jews could have arrived at Pentecost on the same day is by Lunar Sabbaths. This is an absolute because the word Sabbath in Leviticus 23:11 is the Hebrew word for the weekly Sabbath and thousands of people have this knowledge including the Hebrew speaking Jews.

On the other hand, thousands of people including the Greek speaking Jews have the knowledge that the morrow after the Sabbath is referring to the 16th (Day after the 15th/weekly Sabbath) of the first month every year because in the Greek Septuagint it says, “on the morrow of the first day the Priest shall of wave it”, it is a FACT that the first day in the Septuagint is referring to the 15th or first day of unleavened bread, and the morrow after the 15th, (or 1st day), is the 16th.

We know from the book of Acts that they where Greek speaking Jews as well as Hebrew speaking Jews from every nation kindred and tongue, including Greek speaking Jews from Alexander Egypt, gathered for the day of Pentecost. Some read from the Septuagint and some read from the Hebrew text and both had to have known that the 15th was the weekly Sabbath because they were at Pentecost on the same day and started there count from the same day.

The point is this, when these Greek speaking Jews read the Septuagint and started their count for Pentecost on the morrow after the 15th every year and they arrived on the same day as the Hebrew speaking Jews that began the count on the morrow after the weekly Sabbath, this can only mean one thing and that is that the Hebrew speaking Jews and the Greek speaking Jews understood the 15th to be the weekly Shabbat and they started their count for Pentecost on the same day as the Greek speaking Jews that read from the Septuagint, i.e. from the morrow of the 1st day of unleavened bread. 

In other words, these thousands of people on both sides are right because the ones that believe the morrow after the 15th, which is the 16th, is right and the ones that believe the morrow after the weekly Sabbath, which is the 16th is right.

Later on their fathers had compromised the lunar week for the Roman week and the Pentecost debate began.


Both Josephus and Philo records that the count for Pentecost begins on the 16th which is the morrow after the Sabbath and the Septuagint was read and quoted from, same as the Hebrew text, and everyone was at Pentecost on the same day and there was no controversy among them concerning Pentecost until they adopted the false Roman week that is followed today.


The Universally Jewish Encyclopedia and another 100-year-old Jewish Encyclopedia by Funk & Wag, both records that ancient Israel originally kept lunar weeks and lunar Sabbaths.


Philo the Jew, which lived at the same time our Saviour did, records that the weeks were by the moon and also Clement of Alexander. Most people know that the month were originally by the moon but failed to realize that the 4 phases of the moon were used for the weeks.

At the end of a Roman week you have a Roman sabbath and at the end of a Lunar week you have a Lunar Sabbath.

Click Here for True Pentecost http://lunarsabbath.info/id4.html

Click Here and see that Philo and the Jews of our Saviour's day kept Pentecost 50 days AFTER the 7th Sabbath, which is in line with Lev-23, and "NOT" 50 days after the wave sheaf,

http://lunarsabbath.info/id16.html

For more information Click Here For The Truth

 

For more information you may call or write to:
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Amos 8 Proves Pentecost in the 4th month

Amos 8:4-6

4Hear this, O ye that swallow up the needy, even to make the poor of the land to fail, 5Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit? 6That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of shoes; yea, and sell the "refuse" of the wheat?


It is likely that the merchants would have said this around wheat harvest, when the "refuse"/chaff of the wheat was still handy and everyone was anticipating the new grain, not something that they would say every New month/moon.

 

The Hebrew word for “refuse” is

 

H4651

îÇôÌÈì

mappâl

map-pawl'

From H5307; a falling off, that is, chaff; also something pendulous, that is, a flap:—flake, refuse.

 

The only time I see that they could sale this chaff would be at the beginning of the wheat harvest when everyone was busy buying the fresh grain.

 

Another reasonthat Amos 8 fit quite well with lunar Sabbatarians doctrine of my persuasion is because the “very first day” that the new (Pentecost) wheat harvest can be set forth for sale is “always” after the last weekly Sabbath of the month/moon (on the 29th) which is “always” followed by a one or two day new moon feast and this is likely when this statement would be made by the wicked, “When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat,”  i.e. the earliest anyone could sale wheat would be after the new moon day.

The crooked merchants could hardly wait for the Sabbath and new moon day to be over so they could cheat the people in selling them grain from this new fresh wheat, which was mixed with the refuse (chaff). The chaff should be separated from the wheat but the chaff could be mixed in with the wheat around Pentecost and sold "after" the Sabbath and new moon had passed but not before. i.e. you have Pentecost then Sabbath then new moon and then they could set the wheat out for sale but no one would sale or buy it until after the new moon and Sabbath was gone.

The reason I believe that the vision that Amos 8 is talking about is one the three festival/chag each year, which is always celebrated at one of the three harvests, Passover, Pentecost, or tabernacles, is because,

#1. Singing in the temple is mentioned in verse 3, and singing on the Chag/feast is a Law of YHWH.

 

 Psalm 81

 

1    Sing aloud unto Elohim our strength: make a joyful noise unto the Elohim of Jacob.

2    Take a psalm, and bring hither the timbrel, the pleasant harp with the psaltery.

3    Blow up the trumpet in the new moon/month, in the time appointed/full moon, on our solemn “feast” day/Chag.

  • For this was a statute for Israel, and a “law” of the Elohim of Jacob.

 

So we see here that singing on the Chag/feast is a Law of YHWH and this is what they were doing in Amos 8:1



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Teniendo en cuenta que el 2 de Julio de 1776 (verdadera independencia de EEUU) fue en luna llena (Verdadero Pentecostes), es un misterio que la ACTUAL FECHA, EL 4 DE JULIO haya caido en el dia NUMERO 121 DEL CALENDARIO HEBREO.
 
121=74+47

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 21/08/2012 17:00
 
godlikeproductions.com/forum that I felt should be shared and discussed on this forum as well...

G

"For in 7 days, it will rain for 40 days & 40 nights" - Genesis 7:4 ( the Bible's 1st use of the recurring #40)

Freemasonry's "G" inside the square & compass logo stands for (1) God, (2) Grand Architect of the Universe (GAOTU), (3) Sacred Geometry, (4) Sacred Gematria, (5) Genesis and more directly Gn 7:4, (6) Gnosis. But most importantly, (7) the G inside the square & compass stands for the 7th letter inside the 4-sided rectangle or GOD=7_4. 7/4=July 4th as many of the US Founding Fathers were Masons(47).

For a serious scientific explanation, see the NASA presentation Identifying 'True Earth-like Planets' - All New Worlds Are Built On 7_4 (like Earth) Or 6_4 http://exep.jpl.nasa.gov/exep_exoMtgPosters.cfm

Google: Simple English Gematria. SEG is all over the place, it used to be a BIG Masonic(74) secret! The Bible was written using Hebrew gematria and Greek gematria. The Qur'an was written using Arabic gematria. And now, both the English Bible and English Qur'an are written using Simple(74) English(74) Gematria(74). Freemasonry originated primarily in London(74).

In the layout of Washington DC, there is a square & compass formed coming from Capitol(7 letters) Hill(4) with the G. Washington Monument right in the middle! It's right there when you know the Masonic(7,74) Code(4).

The Forever(74) Stamp shows the Liberty(7) Bell(4). This gematria code promotes GOD=7_4, 7/4=July 4.

France(47) & 14/7 = 14th of July: the day celebrating the storming of the Bastille marking the beginning of the French Revolution.

Freemasons refer to 'God' all the time and they uniquely recognize God as the 'Grand Architect of the Universe (G.A.O.T.U.).

Jews & Christians (and some others) make-up Freemasonry. I realize now that G-d is a 'Kaballa thing' for G-d=7_4, 7/4=July 4th, etc.

The 4th Commandment is "Keep the 7th Day (Sabbath) Holy".

John Hancock was the only member of Congress to actually sign the Declaration on 7/4. The only other signature was Charles Thomson, who as Secretary of Congress attested Hancock's signature so as to make the document legal. This original copy of the Declaration was then sent to printer John Dunlop who made 200 copies that evening of July 4 & July 5th morning. These 200 copies are known as the 'Dunlop Broadsides'. John Hancock was the only delegate - the only one of eventually 56 delegates to sign the later Declaration - to have 7 letters in his last name and 4 in his first name. Like the Liberty(7) Bell(4), this symbolically pointed to 7/4 or July 4.

Using 'Step 2' of Simple(6,74) English(7,74) Gematria(8,74), Thomson=74 (T20+h8+m13+s19+n14). The circle O can be either the 15th letter or zerO, i.e. GOD=7_4. Our Forever Stamp uses both Step 1 & Step 2 of gematria since it has a picture of the Liberty(7) Bell(4) & “Forever”=74.

Sacred Geometry by Stephen Skinner (Sterling, 2006, $15). It's good! Has anyone read it?

"There IS a definite 'God' specific to Masons." There is only One God and the one requirement for being a Mason is to recognize God. The definition in English of 'God' is 'One God'/One Diety - it's quite different than 'god'. Christian Masons recognize God, Jewish Masons recognize God (G-d, YHWH=Yehowah), and Muslim Masons recognize God (Arabic: Allah)

Western(7) Wall(4)/Wailing(7) Wall(4)

7/4=July 4th in the United States and 7/4=7th of April outside the US. Friday 7 April 30 AD is the date of Y'shua(74)'s crucifixion. The Messiah(74) was pulled down from the Cross(74) on the first day of the eight-day(8 letters) Festival(8) of Passover(8).

Crystal(7) Ball(4)

George(6) Walker(6) Bush Jr(6) (Busche6) - he was/is the "2nd Beast" from The Revelation Chapter 13 - Ronald(6) Wilson(6) Reagan(6) was the "1st Beast" whose actions where the opposite of the Christ and was "ruler of Earth, lied to all nations, and was wounded yet lived." United(6) States(6) Dollar(6) is the "mark of the Beast that everyone must have to buy or sell with."

The key(74) to utilizing Geomancy.

The musical term "selah" appears 74x in the Bible. (I think 71 of those are in Psalms.)

If anyone thinks that 'Step 1' of gematria - counting the number of letters in a word/name/phrase - is not considered by the powers-that-be that are in charge of the US Currency, consider that "E pluribus unum" is prominently displaced on all US coins and the back of the US $1 dollar in the Great Seal of the US. Why? Why not simply say, "Out of many, one"? Because E pluribus unum has 13 letters and represents the 13 original colonies/states. This method of symbolism and connection maintains a 3,500+ year-old-tradition of Step 1 of gematria(8).

74 persons conspired against the King(74)/Ruler(74) Osiris(74)

"The best exoteric account of the legend (of Osiris) is preserved for us by Plutarch in his treatise De Iside et Osiride written in Greek about the middle of the first century of our era, a large portion of which is substantiated by the Egyptian hieroglyphic texts which have been deciphered by scholars. It may be briefly summarized as follows:

Osiris was a wise king in Egypt who set himself to civilize the people and redeem them from their former states of barbarism. He taught them the cultivation of the earth, gave them a body of laws, and instructed them in the worship of the gods. Having made his own land prosperous, he set out in like manner to teach the other nations of the world. During his absence the land of Egypt was so well ruled by his wife, Isis, that his jealous brother Typhon (Set), the personification of evil, as Osiris was the personification of good, could do no harm in his kingdom; but on the return of Osiris to Egypt, Typhon made a conspiracy against him, persuading 72 other persons to join him, together with a certain Queen of Ethiopia named Aso, who chanced to be in Egypt at the time (74 altogether)... Ultimately Osiris became the king of the underworld and the judge of the dead." p. 35-36, Freemasonry and its Ancient Mystic Rites by C. W. Leadbeater, Gramercy, 1998

Babylon(7) Gate(4), Baghdad(7) Iraq(4)
New York(7) City(4) is at 74 degrees latitude.
Vatican(7) City(4) in Roma(47)
judge(47 & jury(74)

The Hanukkaih(9) is the 9-candle Hanukkah(8) Menorah(7). The shemash is the 'attendant(9) candle'.

Freemasonry is open to all faiths, so they can't say the "Christian god" that would not be inclusive to the others. Freemasonry accepts all religions that believe in god. How would you like it if you were Buddhist, and you had to hear about the Christian version of god at the lodge. The god venerated by Freemasons is the god of all religion, the supreme creator who designed everything. Worshiped with no name so as to include all of mankind, excluding nobody based on religious beliefs (except atheists) just like our nation was set up, to escape religious persecution from the "old country". Freemasonry and the US have a lot in common, both with history and ideals. A new paradigm for a new world (the discovery of the Americas) to escape the controls of the Roman Catholic church and other government sponsored religions, where all men could live in harmony, equally. At least that was the idea, applying it is still tricky as we all know.

The Bible was written using Hebrew gematria and Greek gematria. The Qur'an was written using Arabic gematria. And now, both the English Bible and English Qur'an are written using Simple(74) English(74) Gematria(74). Even though 'gematria' is a Greek word, the practice by the ancient Greeks was/is called isopsephy. The Arabs that practice it - mostly the Sufis(74) - call it Hisab al-Jummal. Google it!

Freemasonry is open to all who believe in the One God. I don't think Buddhists without a belief in God are eligible?

'Lucifer'(7,74) is simply the Latin name for the 'light bearer': the Planet Venus known to the ancients as the Morning(7) Star(4) & Evening(7) Star(4).
 

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 22/08/2012 02:08
 
INDEPENDENCIA DE EEUU EN LUNA LLENA (2 DE JULIO DE 1776) (PRIMERO DE AV)
 
 
The Free4masonry7/Masonic774* Code4 of July 4, 1776
“--- is the supreme example of sacred architecture in the Christian world portraying the truths that lead humanity closer to God”

Mason47s used sacred geometry, gematria, numerology, and the Bible to encode our ‘National Treasure’

The Society of Freemasons connect74 to the builders of the Egyptian Pyramids, Babylonian Ziggurats (Tower of Babel/Babylon), Roman & Greek temples, and especially Solomon’s Temple. ‘Operative Mason47s’ built Europe’s great Gothic47 cathedrals. They view God as the ‘Grand Architect of the Universe’ (G.A.O.T.U.). Many ‘Master Masons’ are also Pythagoreans, Kaballists, and Rosicrucians. The ‘Speculative Masons’ who helped design America50 – i.e. Grand Master Masons Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, and John Hancock – used the Declaration of Independence, Great Seal of the United States, and the Flag to encode history’s greatest secrets! (National Treasure movie is based on this and uses ‘the code’.) Using sacred gematria and sacred numerology, and having Continental Congress choose July 2 and July 4, 1776, the enlightened Masons had many important secrets converge74

Simple674 English774 Gematria8 / G7e5m13a1t20r18i9a1=74: assigning a number774 to a letter (word4, phrase) & vice-versa with both the letters7 and numbers7 having strong symbolic meaning. A-B-C becomes 1-2-374 Masonic74
The Key74: A=1 B2 C3 D4 E5 F6 G7 H8 I9 J10 K11 L12 M13 N14 o15 or zer0 P16 Q17 R18 S19 T20 U21 V22 W23 X24 Y25 Z26

GOD=GOOD=7_4 7/4=July 4
Holiday74 God Deity74 Religion74 Free4masonry7 Reveal God74 †he 1 mind74

‘God Craft’74 leads a break from reign of74 The King74 / Ruler74 / 1 Kingdom74 / 1 Crown74 / London74 1 Britain74

Continental Congress first met in 1774 in Philadelphia: 40˚N 75˚W – “Philadelphia” was/is one of “7 Asian churches” of The Revelation 1:11.
The Committee of Five - chosen to prepare a Declaration of Independence - included three Masons: Franklin, Robert Livingston, and Roger Sherman. (John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were not Masons.) Georgia747 was the last state in roll call vote47. July 4 is aphelion. Only (Mason47) John447 Hancock740 signed & Charles Thomson74 attested the Declaration on 7/4. The Declaration was then sent to printer John47 Dunlap (age 28, b 1747) who made app. 200 copies on the evening of July 4 and morning of July 5 - these are known as the ‘Dunlap broadsides’. (Abigail Adams b 1744.) The Great Seal of the United States Committee was also formed on 7/4/1776 - it included Franklin. Washington & Jefferson were 74”/6’2” tall. There were 74 generals in the Continental Army (33 Masons*) and 74 delegates to the Constitutional Convention (also held in Penn. State House [Independence Hall] - cornerstone laid 1734). Liberty7 Bell4 cast74 (by) John447 Pass and774 John447 Stow477. 1st D.C. cornerstone laid 3/15/1791: 74th day of the year. New York7 City4 40.7˚N 74˚W was/is the financial capitol of the US. Star-Spangled Banner (flag) cost $574. Lady4 Liberty7 VII40 1 Nation74 / 1 Union74 judge47 & jury74 West Point74 74°F is ideally comfortable
“4 score & 7 years ago” 74 men on Mayflower Thanksgiving occurs in 47th week of the year “Independence forever74” Forever Stamp has picture of Liberty7 Bell4 and one word "Forever74"

(July) 4, 1776 JESUS74 was born on 4/17/6 BC (17/4/747 AUC [since the founding of Roma47])
On June 14, 1777 (Matthew 6:14), Congress approved the design of US Flag. Valley77 4g: 40.1°N 75.47°W
Franklin died on 4/17/1790, Washington died on 12/14/1799. Command of Union58/73 forces was offered to Robert E. Lee
and Virginia seceded on 4/17/1861 (Civil War). Thomas Jefferson & John Adams both died on 7/4/1826 – the 50th Anniversary.

Noah’s Ark & the Courtyard of Moses’ Tabernacle were 50 cubits74 or 74 feet wide, 17.76 inches = cubit
888(in.) is gematria for Iesous88 (Jesus) in Greek. The Declaration established another ‘Covenant’, 7/4/1776 marked the sacred event.

Matthew 7:4, “Why are you concerned with the speck in your neighbor’s eye when there’s a pole in your eye?” – Y’shua74 ben Yosef Jewish74 Messiah74 Cross74 “Clean your finger, before you point at my spots.” – Ben Franklin

America50n Independence was approved on July 2 (7/2) John Hancock72 3 days=72 hours July68 4=72
Civil Rights Act July 2, 1964 72 is a major convergence point. (2×36, 3×24, 4×18, 6×12, and 8×9.
7+2=9: ‘the highest number’ in sacred numerology.) Jews have 72 names for G-d, including a 72-letter-name.
“For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure that you get.”
- Matt 7:2
(Pres.58 George6 Walker6 Bush Jr.6 ("the "2nd Beast") pardoned Scooter Libby on 7/2/2007.) Ben Franklin was 72” tall (6’).

The pyramid on the Great Seal/back of the US Dollar47 consists of 72 stones. Golf’s par 72 & 72 hole tournaments.

13 United States (US40) – 13 & 40 are highly mystical numbers** su40m13 Spirit of ’76 (7+6=13) 40°N
13 stars & 13 stripes on original US Flag (13 stars on Confederate Battle Flag) Masonic Lodge 13 blocks from White House
The Great Seal uses symbolism of 13, the back of US Dollar uses 13 13 times including the 13 letters of “E Pluribus Unum” & "Annuit Coeptis"
Jesus’ 13 male disciples (including Matthias) 13 weeks in a season #40 is sacred to Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, etc.

*Thomas Jefferson, author of †he33 Declaration, was 33 years old – Jesus74/Joshua74 was crucified at age 33The 33rd Degree is the highest level in Scottish Rite Freemasonry. At 33˚F, frozen liquids begin to thaw. Amen33

Mary Magdalean58’s Birthday was 5/8/2 BC (Mary 158 Magdalena58/Mariamne74)56 men signed Declaration + Charles Thomson + George Washington = 58 George 158 Father58 design58 obelisk58/73
**The goddess58/73 / (Star58) Planet Venus traces a pentacle every 8 years and returns to initial74 point74 every 40 years with a 40 day regression – the global origin of sacred number 40. (5×8=40, 5+8=13) science58 count58/73
Seal of58 Solomon58 Mother’s Day falls on 2nd Sunday of May (‘Maia’). The movie/musical 1776 begins on May 8, 1776

10/2/08 8:05 White Sox & Twins tied w/ 74 losses. Dow falls record 777.7, 74 senators vote for Wall St. bailout. 74° Miami t 6/1/10 9:36



Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/forum/the-free4masonry7-masonic7-74-code4-of-july-4-1776-t24207.html#ixzz1mxRTe0SC
 

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Génesis 1

Reina-Valera 1960 (RVR1960)

La creación

En el principio creó Dios los cielos y la tierra.

Y la tierra estaba desordenada y vacía, y las tinieblas estaban sobre la faz del abismo, y el Espíritu de Dios se movía sobre la faz de las aguas.

Y dijo Dios: Sea la luz; y fue la luz.

Y vio Dios que la luz era buena; y separó Dios la luz de las tinieblas.

Y llamó Dios a la luz Día, y a las tinieblas llamó Noche. Y fue la tarde y la mañana un día.

Luego dijo Dios: Haya expansión en medio de las aguas, y separe las aguas de las aguas.

E hizo Dios la expansión, y separó las aguas que estaban debajo de la expansión, de las aguas que estaban sobre la expansión. Y fue así.

Y llamó Dios a la expansión Cielos. Y fue la tarde y la mañana el día segundo.

Dijo también Dios: Júntense las aguas que están debajo de los cielos en un lugar, y descúbrase lo seco. Y fue así.

10 Y llamó Dios a lo seco Tierra, y a la reunión de las aguas llamó Mares. Y vio Dios que era bueno.

11 Después dijo Dios: Produzca la tierra hierba verde, hierba que dé semilla; árbol de fruto que dé fruto según su género, que su semilla esté en él, sobre la tierra. Y fue así.

12 Produjo, pues, la tierra hierba verde, hierba que da semilla según su naturaleza, y árbol que da fruto, cuya semilla está en él, según su género. Y vio Dios que era bueno.

13 Y fue la tarde y la mañana el día tercero.

 

 

 
 
 
 

14 Dijo luego Dios: Haya lumbreras en la expansión de los cielos para separar el día de la noche; y sirvan de señales para las estaciones, para días y años,

15 y sean por lumbreras en la expansión de los cielos para alumbrar sobre la tierra. Y fue así.

16 E hizo Dios las dos grandes lumbreras; la lumbrera mayor para que señorease en el día, y la lumbrera menor para que señorease en la noche; hizo también las estrellas.

17 Y las puso Dios en la expansión de los cielos para alumbrar sobre la tierra,

18 y para señorear en el día y en la noche, y para separar la luz de las tinieblas. Y vio Dios que era bueno.

 

19 Y fue la tarde y la mañana el día cuarto. (Esta codificado la independencia de EEUU e incluso el 911/119 en funcion al NUMERO DE VERSICULO 1:19 en contexto al CUARTO DIA, LAS DOS LUMBRERAS EL SOL (JESUCRISTO), LA LUNA (MARIA MAGDALENA) Y LAS ESTRELLAS (HIJOS DE AMBOS). LA INDEPENDENCIA FORMAL FUE UN 2/7 EN LUNA LLENA A LOS 119 DIAS DE ROSH HASHANAH, OSEA EN EL VERDADERO PENTECOSTES E INCLUSO CONSIDERANDO EL VERDADERO CALENDARIO LUNI-SOLAR HEBREO CON LUNAS NUEVAS EN LUNAS LLENAS. ESTA TODO CODIFICADO. YHWH MANEJA TODO. EL VERDADERO MENSAJE DETRAS DEL 4/7 (121=74+47 DIAS POSTERIOR A LA LUNA LLENA, ESTA EN CONTEXTO AL CUARTO MANDAMIENTO EN CONTEXTO AL SEPTIMO DIA. ES UN OBVIO NEXO CON REFERENCIA AL VERDADERO CALENDARIO LUNI-SOLAR HEBREO EN FUNCION A LAS FASES DE LA LUNA. ¿CASUALIDAD QUE CADA FASE DURA 7.4 DIAS? ESTA TODO CALCULADO. ¿QUIEN PUEDE DECIR QUE NO HAY UN DIOS?) EL MENSAJE DE LA ESTATUA DE LA LIBERTAD, CON UN OBVIO NEXO SABATICO, TIENE REFERENCIA A ISTAR/ESTRELLA/GRIAL. SABADO/SABIDURIA/SOFIA/ILUMINACION/LUZ/BEBE/GRIAL)

 
 
 
 

20 Dijo Dios: Produzcan las aguas seres vivientes, y aves que vuelen sobre la tierra, en la abierta expansión de los cielos.

21 Y creó Dios los grandes monstruos marinos, y todo ser viviente que se mueve, que las aguas produjeron según su género, y toda ave alada según su especie. Y vio Dios que era bueno.

22 Y Dios los bendijo, diciendo: Fructificad y multiplicaos, y llenad las aguas en los mares, y multiplíquense las aves en la tierra.

23 Y fue la tarde y la mañana el día quinto.

24 Luego dijo Dios: Produzca la tierra seres vivientes según su género, bestias y serpientes y animales de la tierra según su especie. Y fue así.

25 E hizo Dios animales de la tierra según su género, y ganado según su género, y todo animal que se arrastra sobre la tierra según su especie. Y vio Dios que era bueno.

26 Entonces dijo Dios: Hagamos al hombre a nuestra imagen, conforme a nuestra semejanza; y señoree en los peces del mar, en las aves de los cielos, en las bestias, en toda la tierra, y en todo animal que se arrastra sobre la tierra.

27 Y creó Dios al hombre a su imagen, a imagen de Dios lo creó; varón y hembra los creó.

28 Y los bendijo Dios, y les dijo: Fructificad y multiplicaos; llenad la tierra, y sojuzgadla, y señoread en los peces del mar, en las aves de los cielos, y en todas las bestias que se mueven sobre la tierra.

29 Y dijo Dios: He aquí que os he dado toda planta que da semilla, que está sobre toda la tierra, y todo árbol en que hay fruto y que da semilla; os serán para comer.

30 Y a toda bestia de la tierra, y a todas las aves de los cielos, y a todo lo que se arrastra sobre la tierra, en que hay vida, toda planta verde les será para comer. Y fue así.

31 Y vio Dios todo lo que había hecho, y he aquí que era bueno en gran manera. Y fue la tarde y la mañana el día sexto.


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2.2. EXPLICACIÓN BASADA EN MIRANDA GRAY

Profundizando más en el tema, aparecen personajes nuevos como la luna y los arquetipos femeninos.

En las leyendas, mitología y cuentos populares se establece un paralelismo entre el ciclo de las estaciones, la luna y las energías que experimenta la mujer en el ciclo menstrual:

Luna Roja - Miranda Gray Fases Luna

Luna Creciente: LA DONCELLA
Representa el aspecto enérgico y dinámico: la luz y claridad de la luna creciente
Se le asocia al color blanco
PRIMAVERA
Es la fase PRE-OVULATORIA: desde el fin del sangrado hasta el comienzo de la ovulación
Energías llenas de diversión y entusiasmo de la mujer dinámica y radiante, confiada, firme, ambiciosa, sociable y capaz de afrontar los desafíos de la vida mundana
Mujer centrada en si misma y con gran poder de concentración con el que puede prosperar en el trabajo
Momento idóneo para encarar nuevos proyectos
Luna Llena: LA MADRE
Símbolo de la fertilidad y la nutrición: refleja la intensa luz de la luna llena
Color rojo
VERANO
Es la fase de la OVULACIÓN:
Es la expresión interna y externa del amor: mujer protectora, capaz de asumir responsabilidades, alimentar y dar sustento
Se pierde el interés por la propia persona y te centras en los demás seres
Desafortunadamente nuestra sociedad ha degradado y desprestigiado las cualidades arquetípicas que caracterizan a la madre (cuidado, entrega, …). Nuestro sistema económico, explotador al máximo, no asocia la inteligencia, fortaleza y sabiduría con la maternidad, sino con la energía de la doncella: FUERA DE CASA.
Y así nos va: ¡una sociedad des-madrada¡. Hablaremos de eso en un futuro artículo de crianza, que será demoledor.
Luna Menguante: LA HECHICERA
Color azul
Fase PRE-MENSTRUAL: desde la ovulación hasta la menstruación
OTOÑO
Representa el descenso hacia el aspecto interior de la naturaleza femenina: misterio, magia, pasión, poder femenino, magnetismo y atracción.
Aumento de la sexualidad, creatividad, conciencia, intuición y ensoñación.
Es una creatividad tremenda y desenfrenada
Luna Nueva: LA BRUJA
Fase de la MENSTRUACIÓN
Color negro: la oscuridad de la luna nueva o menguante
INVIERNO
Representa la sabiduría y la estabilidad: los poderes del mundo interior: se retiran las energías del mundo terrenal para centrar su conciencia en el mundo espiritual.
Es la fase de introspección: de dormir y soñar y frenar el ritmo de vida
El ciclo de la luna blanca

Se podría hablar largo y tendido de los arquetipos femeninos pero este documento sólo pretende demostrar que:

Las mujeres somos cíclicas como la vida y la Tierra, y no lineales como nos han hecho creer y desear ser.


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Trying to just refresh my memory about all this, and here are a few (probably insignificant) things I could think of:

The concept of "a second Passover" as found in Numbers 9:6-13 :

Numbers 9:6-13

6 And there were certain men, who were defiled by the dead body of a man, that they could not keep the passover on that day: and they came before Moses and before Aaron on that day:

7 And those men said unto him, We are defiled by the dead body of a man: wherefore are we kept back, that we may not offer an offering of the LORD in his appointed season among the children of Israel?

8 And Moses said unto them, Stand still, and I will hear what the LORD will command concerning you.

9 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

10 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If any man of you or of your posterity shall be unclean by reason of a dead body, or be in a journey afar off, yet he shall keep the passover unto the LORD.

11 The fourteenth day of the second month at even they shall keep it, and eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs.

12 They shall leave none of it unto the morning, nor break any bone of it: according to all the ordinances of the passover they shall keep it.

13 But the man that is clean, and is not in a journey, and forbeareth to keep the passover, even the same soul shall be cut off from among his people: because he brought not the offering of the LORD in his appointed season, that man shall bear his sin.



If the count were started from "the second Passover" date (actually, starting "the day after the first Sabbath following the 14th day of the SECOND month"... in other words, starting on our May 2), then 50 days later falls on Sunday, June 20.

So, "the second Passover" is a biblical concept to consider, I guess.

I believe that some who point to a June 20 Pentecost date say that the calendar is "off" based on the fact that (they say) the first day of the first Hebrew month (Nisan) should always fall on the first new moon after the spring equinox, and in that case you would always have ripened barley at Firstfruits and ripened wheat at Pentecost (which wouldn't have been ready by May 23)... but I'm not sure that's a biblical understanding of the calendar, or just a somewhat reasonable (agricultural) idea on their part.

I'll keep thinking... (my brain is tired, with my crazy schedule of late... )

Anyone else know of any reasons for a June 20 Pentecost?

 
http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?136470-The-Mystery-of-the-Date-of-Pentecost-by-Dr-Thomas-McCall/page2

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Question for acceptedinthebeloved (and anyone else who’s interested) –

It’s generally accepted that the Biblical spring feasts represent events around the time of Christ’s first coming, and the fall feasts represent events surrounding Christ’s second coming (at the end of the Trib).

In addition, it’s said that the gap between the spring and fall feasts represents the present Church Age that occurs between Christ’s two comings. (This is what I've always assumed.)

However, it’s also commonly accepted (by Dispensational scholars) that the Church is a “mystery” in the sense of not having been revealed in the OT. (Romans 16:25-26, Ephesians 3:4-8, Colossians 1:25-27) (Also see Thomas Ice articles linked below.)

(We all know there are many OT prophecies that refer to Christ’s first coming and then immediately to His second coming - without any mention of the long Church Age that would happen in between.)

But - if the gap between the spring and fall feasts does represent the Church Age, then in a sense the Church Age was, at least indirectly, revealed in the OT.

What I’m wondering… Is it possible that the gap between the spring and fall feasts (specifically I mean the gap between Pentecost and Rosh Hashanah) doesn’t represent the Church Age? Maybe the Church Age is completely omitted, skipped over (like in the OT prophecies that mention Christ’s first and second comings together, skipping right over the gap in between).

Is it possible that the gap between Pentecost and Rosh Hashanah represents NOT the Church Age, but rather the time period between the Rapture and the Second Coming?

Do you think that’s a possibility????

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In case anyone’s interested, here are some articles about the Church as a mystery unrevealed in the OT:

The Uniqueness of The Church
by Dr. Thomas Ice
http://www.pre-trib.org/articles/vie...ness-of-church

Israel's Fall Feasts and Date-Setting of the Rapture
by Dr. Thomas Ice
http://www.pre-trib.org/articles/vie...ing-of-rapture
(I think) I agree with what I think you are saying. ( foggy brain today)

If I am understanding you correctly, this would nix the idea that some hold that the Feast of Trumpets represents the rapture (am I understanding that right?) I don't believe it does represent our rapture. If anything, I think it could represent what is described in Matthew 24:29-31, which takes place "immediately after the tribulation of those days" (after the trib)... for Israel.

Here is what verse 31 says: "And He shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." This is not about the Church, but the elect of Israel and their gathering together to one place on the earth, around the time of His Second Coming.

It seems to me that the three fall feasts will be fulfilled (or "realized") for Israel, all in the same year of each other, at the end of the tribulation period (or thereabouts).

I do believe the feasts are for Israel. Even the first Pentecost happened the way it did for the purpose (at least one of the purposes) of convincing Israel that Jesus was who He said He was: their Messiah. (See Acts 2:14-16, and following; and Acts 2:22-24, and following; Acts 2:29-31, and following; Acts 2:36-38 and following). It seems this purpose will resume at the time of the tribulation period.

As an added thought, only three of the feasts were known as "harvest festivals" or "set appointments", where they were required to go up to Jerusalem: Unleavened Bread, Pentecost, Tabernacles (but not the Feast of Trumpets... I don't think it pictures the gathering UP of the Church, at all... but is for Israel [as are all the feasts]).

So, no, I don't think the gap between Pentecost and Trumpets pictures the Church age.

Pentecost is also known as "the Feast of Revelation" (and "the DAY of Firstfruits" which "connects" it with "the FEAST of Firstfruits" by, of course, 50 days. They are the only two feasts that are "connected", so to speak. Firstfruits and Pentecost. If "the Feast of Firstfruits" was the time of His resurrection, might the [next] "connected" feast, "the DAY of Firstfruits", aka Pentecost, be the resurrection/rapture of His Body [in "connection" or union with its Head] ? - 1 Corinthians 15:23) I think God's plan might possibly be to use this feast (the Church's birth and later rapture) to "open the eyes of Israel" or "to provoke them to jealousy", as it says in Romans 10:19. The Book of Ruth (which pictures a Gentile bride) is read during this time, I believe.
Just some random () thoughts that come to mind.

 
Is it possible that the gap between Pentecost and Rosh Hashanah represents NOT the Church Age, but rather the time period between the Rapture and the Second Coming?

Do you think that’s a possibility????
Yes, I think that's a good possibility.


 
What I'm wondering is if the Biblical feasts calendar completely omits the Church Age, skipping right over it (just like OT prophecies skipped right over the Church Age, and jumped straight from Christ's first coming to either the Trib or the second coming).
I tend to agree with you. (Ephesians 3:1-3; Ephesians 3:4-5; Ephesians 3:8-9)


Let me know if I'm way off in what you have asked... my brain is still foggy today, but I will continue pondering your post... I think I agree with it.

Last edited by acceptedintheBeloved; May 19th, 2010 at 01:37 AM. Reason: minor corrections and underlining/bolding; missed an "r" in one of the "firstfruits"

 
http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?136470-The-Mystery-of-the-Date-of-Pentecost-by-Dr-Thomas-McCall&s=6efb852550bcf256243b3f763bd7047d

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THE TRUE COUNT TO PENTECOST REDISCOVERED

This amazing discovery takes the guesswork out of how to count to Pentecost by conclusively proving from Scripture that the numbering of the 50 days begins on the morrow AFTER the seventh Sabbath complete, (Leviticus 23:16) instead of numbering from the wave sheaf. By doing this, it places Pentecost at the end of the FOURTH month instead of the beginning of the THIRD month.

Did you know that there is not even a THIRD month FEAST OF ANY KIND found in Scripture But there is in the fourth month? WOW!

Did you know that there is not even a conclusive WHEAT HARVEST or harvest of any kind in the THIRD month found in Scripture But there is in the fourth month? WOW!

Did you know that the law that was written with the finger of YHWH was not given to Moses until the END OF THE FOURTH MONTH which is 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath complete? WOW!

Did you know that Pentecost was one of the three major Pilgrim feasts that were called Chags in the Hebrew, where the children of Israel were commanded to travel up to Jerusalem each year and there is not even a Chag found in Scripture in the THIRD month but there is in the fourth month? WOW!

Did you know that there is Historical evidence of EYEWITNESSES of people who lived at the same time of our Saviour and the Apostles, keeping Pentecost 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath complete? WOW!

Did you know that Acts chapters 20 and 21 shows that it is a MATHEMATICAL CERTAINTY that the Apostle Paul and thousands of believing Jews were keeping Pentecost BEYOND the traditional 50 day count? WOW! WOW! WOW! See Scripture where the apostle Paul and thousands of believing Israelites observed Pentecost beyond the traditional 50 day count at Paul's Pentecost at http://lunarsabbath.us/id9.html

Did you know that the Children of Israes kept Pentecost on the day that the Law was given and they called it a Chag/Feast to YHWH and it was exactly 50 days AFTER the 7th Sabbath? WOW!

Did you know that in light of all of this, along with the evidence that I am going to produce in this book, people will still keep their tradition of Pentecost in the THIRD month? WOW!

Did you know that what you do not know can DESTROY you? Hosea 4:6 says my people are DESTROYED for lack of knowledge. WOW!

Did you know that if we reject knowledge, that He will reject us? This is also found in Hosea 4:6 i.e. if we do not know something or have no knowledge of it we are damned and if we reject the knowledge that is presented to us we are damned. Did you know it is our duty to search out a matter, and if we do not well held accountable? WOW!

Having said that I will proceed to conclusive proof that Leviticus 23:16 should be understood to begin the count to Pentecost, 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath complete.

Here are some of my notes on what the Scripture teaches is the true count to Pentecost which is 50 days “after” the 7th Sabbath complete, not 50 days after the wave sheaf or 1st Sabbath.


Lev-23:16  “Even unto the morrow "after" the seventh sabbath shall ye number  fifty days; and ye shall offer  a new  meat offering unto YHWH” If you have Questions and wish to talk on the phone, let me know and I will call you, I have free calling. My number is (770) 483-8542 
Below is an abundance of evidence from scripture and nature that conclusively proves a later Pentecost. Go to http://lunarsabbath.us/id7.html and you will see that even Nature Proves the 4th month Pentecost. Go to http://lunarsabbath.us/id11.html and see that it is MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for the children of Israel to have reached Mount Sinai in time for the traditional third month Pentecost.

 

          INTRODUCTION  If someone wanted to argue Pentecost in the third month, would it be asking too much for them to produce ONE scripture supporting a wheat harvest in the 3rd month “springtime”??? After all that is what Pentecost is, first fruits of the wheat harvest.  Would it be asking too much to show where there was even a Feast in the 3rd month??? 
 Leviticus 23:16 can be understood two ways, the traditional way is to count 50 days from the wave sheaf of the barley harvest, and another way it can be understood is to count 50 days from the morrow “after” the seventh Sabbath. To prove which understanding is correct, we must turn to nature and other Scripture other than the one in question. Also see positive proof under Pentecost count at http://lunarsabbath.us/id6.html which also shows The Law was given in 4th month

 
We know that Pentecost has to do with the wheat harvest and I challenge someone to show where there is a wheat harvest, mentioned in the Scripture, for a 3rd month Pentecost.

 If someone can find a Winter wheat harvest in scriptures or a feast/Chag in the THIRD month, then there is at least a 50-50 chance that the 50 days after the wave sheaf could possibly be right, OTHERWISE IT IS NOT EVEN AN OPTION.

 The reason I say 50-50 chance is because we definitely have a conclusive pinpointed “summer” wheat harvest in the 4th month which is found over and over throughout the Scriptures and we also have a conclusive feast/Chag mentioned in the fourth month, and therefore it could be understood either way if someone can find a Winter wheat harvest or a feast/Chag in the third month, then they could argue it was 50 days after the barley sheaf/Winter wheat harvest, and we could argue that it is 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete, which would be a summer wheat harvest.  In other words if someone can produce scripture for harvesting wheat in the spring, instead of summer, then it could go either way but until someone finds a conclusive Winter wheat harvest or a feast/Chag in the third month, IT IS NOT EVEN AN OPTION.  We must prove what the Scripture in Leviticus 23:16 is speaking of. Now “if” they were no summer wheat harvest found in Scripture and you had plenty of Winter wheat harvests found in Scripture, and “if” there was a third month feast/Chag then the obvious understanding would be to count 50 days after the barley wave sheaf for the winter wheat harvest and a third month Pentecost.  Simple.   On the other hand if there is no Winter wheat harvest mentioned in Scripture, (and there’s not) and there's no third month feast/Chag mentioned in Scripture, then the obvious conclusion is to begin the 50 day count from the morrow after the seventh Sabbath complete and then bring the new meat offering from the summer wheat, the only wheat spoken of in scriptures.  Simple
 

Below you will read many Scripture which will harmonize with counting 50 days “after” the seventh Sabbath, not after the wave sheaf, such as when Aaron made proclamation of a Pilgrim feast/CHAG which was 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete and the only Pilgrim Feast this could have been was Pentecost because it was in the fourth month when Aaron proclaimed this. There is no CHAG found in the 3rd month for the traditional Pentecost. 

 

 

All Scriptures that I have found is referring to “summer” wheat which is sowed in the 1st month and reaped in the 4th.


Winter wheat takes 7 months to harvest and our Saviour say's are there not 4 months then cometh the harvest, refering to summer wheat. This also explains why the wheat was not distroyed in the 1st month in Egypt, because it had not came up yet.


We can prove many wheat harvests in the "summer", throughout the Scriptures, but is there one shred of evidence for a wheat harvest in the "spring"? The answer is no, so there is no Scriptural wheat harvest in the spring, so it must be understood that Pentecost is counted from the morrow "after" the seventh Sabbath/intermission, instead of from the wave sheaf it’s self.


All the males were commanded to appear before YHWH three times in the year, these three feasts centered around the three major harvests. The first one is Unleavened Bread/barley harvest, which takes place in the "springtime", or Spring feast, then the second one takes place in the "summer", at the summer wheat harvest called Pentecost or summer harvest, the first fruits of the summer wheat harvest is offered, not Winter wheat which is harvested in the "spring", two weeks after the barley, and is still in the spring season.

 

Every where in Scripture and history from Josephus and Philo who lived at the time of these harvest, wheat was always a summer harvest. Study these EXAMPLES closely.

#1. In the book of Josephus it tells how that it was “Summer” time when the fruit of the land being almost ripe enough for reaping that Samson set fire to the fruit of the land i.e. "wheat" and grapes etc. and in the book of Judges it plainly tells that it was in the time of wheat harvest when Samson done this. Read the following from Josephus and the book of Judges.


CHAPTER 8 CONCERNING THE FORTITUDE OF SAMSON, AND WHAT MISCHIEFS HE BROUGHT UPON THE PHILISTINES

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7. (295) At this injurious treatment Samson was so provoked that he resolved to punish all the Philistines, as well as her; so it being then “summer” time, and the fruits of the land being almost ripe enough for reaping, he caught three hundred foxes, and joining lighted torches to their tails, he sent them into the fields of the Philistines, by which means the fruits of the fields perished.

 

In the book of Judges Chapter 15:5 it says:

“1But it came to pass within a while after, in the “time” of “wheat” harvest that Samson visited his wife with a kid; and he said, I will go in to my wife into the chamber. But her father would not suffer him to go in. 2And her father said, I verily thought that thou hadst utterly hated her; therefore I gave her to thy companion: is not her younger sister fairer than she? take her, I pray thee, instead of her. 3And Samson said concerning them, Now shall I be more blameless than the Philistines, though I do them a displeasure. 4And Samson went and caught three hundred foxes, and took firebrands, and turned tail to tail, and put a firebrand in the midst between two tails. 5And when he had set the brands on fire, he let them go into the standing “corn” of the Philistines, and burnt up both the shocks, and also the standing “corn”, with the ”vineyards and “olives”.

In other words the time of wheat harvest is in the summer, NOT spring. This proves that this wheat harvest is speaking of "summer" wheat harvest and not spring harvest of winter wheat. Josephus knew enough about how many foxes etc. because he knew the Scriptures, wonder why he didn't know that the wheat harvest was in the spring instead of summer? Or maybe he knew that wheat harvest in his time was in the Summer and not Spring. You Judge and remember the people knew about farming in those days, and to say whether he was a Pharisee or Sadducee makes no difference concerning the harvest and nature.

 

The following quote from Josephus also proves the wheat was Summer wheat and not Winter wheat 


1. (323) In the meantime Herod’s affairs in Judea were in an ill state. He had left his brother Joseph with full power, but had charged him to make no attempts against Antigonus till his return;for that Macheras would not be such an assistant as he could depend on, as it appeared by what he had done already; but as soon as Joseph heard that his brother was at a very great distance, he neglected the charge he had received, and marched towards Jericho with five cohorts, which Macheras sent with him. This movement was intended for seizing on the corn, as it was now in the midst of “summer;”

Notice the last verse of this quote. This is found in Josephus under:


THE DEATH OF JOSEPH [HEROD’S BROTHER], WHICH HAD BEEN SIGNIFIED TO HEROD IN DREAMS. HOW HEROD WAS PRESERVED TWICE, AFTER A WONDERFUL MANNER. HE CUTS OFF THE HEAD OF PAPPUS WHO WAS THE MURDERER OF HIS BROTHER, AND SENDS THAT HEAD TO [HIS OTHER BROTHER] PHERORAS, AND IN NO LONG TIME HE BESIEGES JERUSALEM, AND MARRIES MARIAMNE


This next quote which lists the 4 seasons, proves they were known back then: Philo, On The Creation

“And in addition to the four elements the seasons of the year are also four, which are the “causes” of the “generation” of animals and “plants”, the year being divided into the quadruple division of winter, and “spring”, and “summer”, and “autumn”.
XVII. (53) The aforesaid number therefore being accounted worthy”


Notice he says these four seasons Winter, and Spring, and Summer, and Autumn, are cause of the generation of animals and “plants”

In other words you have three harvest feasts each year, barley in the spring, wheat in the summer, and the annual fruits of the trees etc. in the autumn.

I have heard the argument that all harvest was Summer time, but that is not acceptable because Josephus says, “And in addition to the four elements the seasons of the year are also four, which are the “causes” of the “generation” of animals and “plants”, the year being divided into the quadruple division of winter, and “spring”, and “summer”, and “autumn”.

 

 


Bottom line is someone should have a Scripture or some kind of proof that there is a spring wheat harvest instead of a summer wheat harvest to support their 50 day count after the wave sheaf instead of 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete for Pentecost.

I can give many Scriptures and history from people that lived at this time that there is a summer wheat harvest which would have to be 50 days after the seventh Sabbath instead of 50 days after the first Sabbath.

50 days after the first Sabbath can only produce a spring wheat harvest and 50 days after the seventh Sabbath can only produce a summer wheat harvest. Which one does the Scripture teach? We know what tradition of men teaches.

 

 
It says in the book of Nehemiah Chapter 13:15: In those days saw I in Judah some treading “wine presses” on the Sabbath, and bringing in “sheaves”, and lading asses; as also wine, grapes, and figs, and all manner of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the Sabbath day: and I testified against them in the day wherein they sold victuals.

Nehemiah saw men treading grapes in these wine presses and the grapes are not ripe until summer therefore the sheaves they were bringing in had to be summer sheaves NOT spring sheaves. The Winter wheat is gone by this time and so was springtime!
 
Our Saviour says that after four months comes the harvest. This has to be speaking of the summer wheat harvest which matures in four months after sowing. It is sown in the first month Abib/spring and is reaped in the fourth month/summer which is seven Sabbaths plus 50 days and then you can bring a first fruit from it, therefore it is summer fruit. This is why the hail did not destroy the wheat in Egypt because it had not come up yet because it was planted in the first month. In John 4: 35 it says:

“say not ye ., there are yet four months then cometh the harvest”

The traditional Winter wheat is at least 6 or 7 months to harvest and not four months to harvest as our Saviour said, and therefore He was referring to the summer wheat harvest, and as I have said, winter wheat can NOT be pinpointed in scripture and therefore is not even an option for Pentecost wheat.

John-12:24 says,24…..“Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of “wheat” fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. 25He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. ….27Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. …..32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. 33This he said, signifying what death he should die”.

There is no doubt He is comparing Himself with a corn of wheat and how it must die to bring forth fruit. The fruit of his dying was the Spirit being poured out on the day of Pentecost. It takes 4 months, or 50 days after 7 Sabbaths for a corn of wheat to produce fruit, John 4: 35, therefore the fruit of the Holy Spirit was not 50 days after his death!

Once again a corn of wheat can NOT bring forth fruit, or a harvest in 50 days and I cannot picture our Saviour using an untrue analogy or typology. He was buried in the 1st month, same as summer wheat is planted, and a harvest of soles was reaped 50 days AFTER 7 Sabbaths plus 50 days.

It was the same time that the Law was given to Moses. Also it was when Aaron used the word CHAG, which is only used for Pilgrim feast, and it was in the Summer time and it was 50 days after the seventh Sabbath, the same day that the Law was given on Mount Sinai. Ex-32:5 and Ex-31:18.

Philo says that the harvest comes after the grapes are ripe and the grapes are not ripe until summer. He also tells of some men that was keeping a prelude or fore feast of the greatest feast i.e. Pentecost, 50 days after the wave sheaf. That means that the morrow after the 7th Sabbath is NOT Pentecost, but a fore feast or start of the 50 day count to Pentecost.

He also says that wheat was the last of all" the grains that are sowed in the field to ripen and come to harvest. This was Pentecost wheat that he was referring to, and it has to be summer wheat to ripen last, after winter wheat. Philo SPECIAL LAWS, 11 (186)

The wheat harvest and Tabernacles are to be observed at the years end/turning (Ex34:22) and that does not happened until June 21. (after the traditional Pentecost) In other words you have a turning March 21 and then keep Passover, in the Spring and you have another turning June 21st and you keep Pentecost, in the Summer and then you have another turning September 21 in the days of Tabernacles, in the Fall.

If you try to keep the traditional Pentecost in the third month/June 6, it is not at the year’s end or turning, which happens on June 21. and it is not in harmony with Torah Law. When they came into the land they were to reap the harvest thereof/barley, wave sheaf, count seven sabbaths/intermissions complete, number 50 days, then bring a new meat offering from “their” labors that “they” sowed in the field i.e. wheat.

 In other words if they sowed the summer wheat in the first month when they came into the land they could reap a harvest for a first fruit 50 days after the seventh Sabbath from their labors which they sowed in the field, but NOT in 50 days from the time they sowed, for nature will not allow the wheat to mature in 50 days. Ex-23:16 There is so much proof supporting the count should began 50 days after the seventh Sabbath instead of 50 days after the first Sabbath.

Bottom line is, can anyone locate a "spring" wheat harvest for a 3rd month Pentecost? If not, maybe it is not there and is only a tradition of men.
 

Here are a few Scriptures to support the summer fruit/wheat harvest: Proverbs 10:5 
“5He that gathereth in SUMMER is a wise son: but he that sleepeth in “HARVEST” is a son that causeth shame.”

 
Notice summer and harvest is synonymous.

 
Proverbs 26:1

 
“1As snow in “Summer”, and as rain in “Harvest”, so honour is not seemly for a fool.”

 
Again summer and harvest is synonymous.

 
Isaiah 16:9

 
“9Therefore I will bewail with the weeping of Jazer the vine of Sibmah: I will water thee with my tears, O Heshbon, and Elealeh: for the shouting for thy “SUMMER” fruits and for thy HARVEST is fallen (some of harvest not spring harvest). 10And gladness is taken away, and joy out of the plentiful field;and in the VINEYARDS there shall be no singing, neither shall there be shouting: the treaders shall tread out no WINE in their presses; I have made their vintage shouting to cease.”

 
Notice here the summer fruits of the harvest AND the wine are connected.

 
Isaiah 17: 5-6

“5And it shall be as when the HARVESTMAN gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the VALLEY of Rephaim.

6Yet “Gleaning Grapes” shall be left in IT (Valley), as the shaking of an olive tree, two or three berries in the top of the uppermost bough, four or five in the outmost fruitful branches thereof, saith YHWH the Mighty One of Israel”.

 
Notice here, the harvest men gather the wheat in the Valley and what's left of the grapes they left in the Valley which proves the grapes were ripe before the harvest as Philo says; they just didn't go back and GLEAN them.

 
Isaiah 18:4-6

 
4For so the MASTER said unto me, I will take my “rest”, and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the “heat of harvest.” 5For “afore” the harvest, when the bud is perfect and the sour grape is” ripening” in the flower,

 
The Tanach reads, " for the said YHWH to me: I will be at ease and I will look after my place of Foundation; like crisp warmth after the rain, like a mist in the “heat” of the harvest.  For “before” "the" harvest, when the flower is finished and the bud turns to “grapes approaching ripeness,"

 
Notice here that this is speaking of a summer wheat harvest and says “before" the harvest the grapes are approaching ripeness".  The Grapes Are Not Approaching Ripeness in the springtime.

 The phrase "THE harvest" not a harvest of wheat seems to imply that there was only one major wheat harvest and that was in the summer which rules out any possibility of counting only one day after the seventh Sabbath complete.

 
“6They shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall” “Summer” upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall winter upon them. 7In that time shall “the present” be brought unto YHWH of hosts of a people scattered and peeled, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name YHWH of hosts, the mount Zion”.

 
I believe “the present” that is spoken of here is the first fruit of the summer wheat harvest because it shows that the present/first fruit is brought during the summer.  The above and nature demands an understanding of Leviticus 23:16 to mean 50 days after the seventh Sabbath complete.

 
Jeremiah 8: 20

“20The harvest is past, the “summer” is ended, and we are not saved.”

 
This verse I shows that the harvest was in the summer NOT “Spring” because it does not say the harvest is past and spring is ended.  Proven once again it is a summer harvest not Spring harvest.

 Jeremiah 40: 10 -12
“10As for me, behold, I will dwell at Mizpah to serve the Chaldeans, which will come unto us: but ye, gather ye “WINE”, and SUMMER FRUIT, and oil, and put them in your vessels, and dwell in your cities that ye have taken. 11Likewise when all the Jews that were in Moab, and among the Ammonites, and in Edom, and that were in all the countries, heard that the king of Babylon had left a remnant of Judah, and that he had set over them Gedaliah the son of Ahikam the son of Shaphan; 12Even all the Jews returned out of all places whither they were driven, and came to the land of Judah, to Gedaliah, unto Mizpah, and gathered WINE AND SUMMER FRUITS VERY MUCH.”

 
Notice the wine/grapes and the summer fruit/wheat is in the summer time and not the springtime. By the way in Jeremiah 39:2 it explains that this was in the fourth month when the people harvested these crops.


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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 31/08/2012 04:13

 

THE COUNT TO PENTECOST “PROVES” LUNAR SABBATHS

The only way the Hebrew speaking Jews and the Greek speaking Jews could have arrived at Pentecost on the same day is by Lunar Sabbaths. This is an absolute because the word Sabbath in Leviticus 23:11 is the Hebrew word for the weekly Sabbath and thousands of people have this knowledge including the Hebrew speaking Jews.

On the other hand, thousands of people including the Greek speaking Jews have the knowledge that the morrow after the Sabbath is referring to the 16th (Day after the 15th/weekly Sabbath) of the first month every year because in the Greek Septuagint it says, “on the morrow of the first day the Priest shall of wave it”, it is a FACT that the first day in the Septuagint is referring to the 15th or first day of unleavened bread, and the morrow after the 15th, (or 1st day), is the 16th.

We know from the book of Acts that they where Greek speaking Jews as well as Hebrew speaking Jews from every nation kindred and tongue, including Greek speaking Jews from Alexander Egypt, gathered for the day of Pentecost. Some read from the Septuagint and some read from the Hebrew text and both had to have known that the 15th was the weekly Sabbath because they were at Pentecost on the same day and started there count from the same day.

The point is this, when these Greek speaking Jews read the Septuagint and started their count for Pentecost on the morrow after the 15th every year and they arrived on the same day as the Hebrew speaking Jews that began the count on the morrow after the weekly Sabbath, this can only mean one thing and that is that the Hebrew speaking Jews and the Greek speaking Jews understood the 15th to be the weekly Shabbat and they started their count for Pentecost on the same day as the Greek speaking Jews that read from the Septuagint, i.e. from the morrow of the 1st day of unleavened bread.

In other words, these thousands of people on both sides are right because the ones that believe the morrow after the 15th, which is the 16th, is right and the ones that believe the morrow after the weekly Sabbath, which is the 16th is right.

Later on their fathers had compromised the lunar week for the Roman week and the Pentecost debate began.


Both Josephus and Philo records that the count for Pentecost begins on the 16th which is the morrow after the Sabbath and the Septuagint was read and quoted from, same as the Hebrew text, and everyone was at Pentecost on the same day and there was no controversy among them concerning Pentecost until they adopted the false Roman week that is followed today.


The Universally Jewish Encyclopedia and another 100-year-old Jewish Encyclopedia by Funk & Wag, both records that ancient Israel originally kept lunar weeks and lunar Sabbaths.


Philo the Jew, which lived at the same time our Saviour did, records that the weeks were by the moon and also Clement of Alexander. Most people know that the month were originally by the moon but failed to realize that the 4 phases of the moon were used for the weeks.

At the end of a Roman week you have a Roman sabbath and at the end of a Lunar week you have a Lunar Sabbath.

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Amos 8 Proves Pentecost in the 4th month

Amos 8:4-6

4Hear this, O ye that swallow up the needy, even to make the poor of the land to fail, 5Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit? 6That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of shoes; yea, and sell the "refuse" of the wheat?


It is likely that the merchants would have said this around wheat harvest, when the "refuse"/chaff of the wheat was still handy and everyone was anticipating the new grain, not something that they would say every New month/moon.

 

The Hebrew word for “refuse” is

 

H4651

îÇôÌÈì

mappâl

map-pawl'

From H5307; a falling off, that is, chaff; also something pendulous, that is, a flap:—flake, refuse.

 

The only time I see that they could sale this chaff would be at the beginning of the wheat harvest when everyone was busy buying the fresh grain.

 

Another reason that Amos 8 fit quite well with lunar Sabbatarians doctrine of my persuasion is because the “very first day” that the new (Pentecost) wheat harvest can be set forth for sale is “always” after the last weekly Sabbath of the month/moon (on the 29th) which is “always” followed by a one or two day new moon feast and this is likely when this statement would be made by the wicked, “When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat,”  i.e. the earliest anyone could sale wheat would be after the new moon day.

The crooked merchants could hardly wait for the Sabbath and new moon day to be over so they could cheat the people in selling them grain from this new fresh wheat, which was mixed with the refuse (chaff). The chaff should be separated from the wheat but the chaff could be mixed in with the wheat around Pentecost and sold "after" the Sabbath and new moon had passed but not before. i.e. you have Pentecost then Sabbath then new moon and then they could set the wheat out for sale but no one would sale or buy it until after the new moon and Sabbath was gone.

The reason I believe that the vision that Amos 8 is talking about is one the three festival/chag each year, which is always celebrated at one of the three harvests, Passover, Pentecost, or tabernacles, is because,

#1. Singing in the temple is mentioned in verse 3, and singing on the Chag/feast is a Law of YHWH.

 

 Psalm 81

 

1    Sing aloud unto Elohim our strength: make a joyful noise unto the Elohim of Jacob.

2    Take a psalm, and bring hither the timbrel, the pleasant harp with the psaltery.

3    Blow up the trumpet in the new moon/month, in the time appointed/full moon, on our solemn “feast” day/Chag.

4         For this was a statute for Israel, and a “law” of the Elohim of Jacob.

 

So we see here that singing on the Chag/feast is a Law of YHWH and this is what they were doing in Amos 8:1.

 

 

 

 

#2 Amos was shown a basket of summer fruit in verse 1 & 2 and in Deuteronomy YHWH commanded that the firstfruits of the harvests was to be brought in a basket, on these feasts/Chags which always commemorates something.

 

 

 

 Deut-26:1-11

 

 

1And it shall be, when thou art come in unto the land which YHWH thy Elohim giveth thee for an inheritance, and possessest it, and dwellest therein; 2That thou shalt take of the first of all the fruit of the earth, which thou shalt bring of thy land that YHWH thy Elohim giveth thee, and shalt put it in a basket, and shalt go unto the place which YHWH thy Elohim shall choose to place his name there. 3And thou shalt go unto the priest that shall be in those days, and say unto him, I profess this day unto YHWH thy Elohim, that I am come unto the country which YHWH sware unto our fathers for to give us. 4And the priest shall take the basket out of thine hand, and set it down before the altar of YHWH thy Elohim. 5And thou shalt speak and say before YHWH thy Elohim, A Syrian ready to perish was my father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty, and populous: 6And the Egyptians evil entreated us, and afflicted us, and laid upon us hard bondage: 7And when we cried unto YHWH Elohim of our fathers, YHWH heard our voice, and looked on our affliction, and our labour, and our oppression: 8And YHWH brought us forth out of Egypt with a mighty hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with great terribleness, and with signs, and with wonders: 9And he hath brought us into this place, and hath given us this land, even a land that floweth with milk and honey. 10And now, behold, I have brought the firstfruits of the land, which thou, O YHWH, hast given me. And thou shalt set it before YHWH thy Elohim, and worship before YHWH thy Elohim: 11And thou shalt rejoice in every good thing which YHWH thy Elohim hath given unto thee, and unto thine house, thou, and the Levite, and the stranger that is among you.

 

 

The above is on a Chag and so far we have seen the commanded singing that takes place on the Chag and the basket of the summer firstfruits that is commanded to be brought on the Chag but is the word for feast/Chag mentioned in Amos 8 which would conclusively prove that Amos 8 has to do with a Pilgrim festival/Chag? Yes it is mentioned in verse 10.

 

 

10And I will turn your feasts (Chag) into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness upon every head; and I will make it as the mourning of an only son, and the end thereof as a bitter day.

 

 

The commanded feast/Chag is going to be changed from a day of singing and rejoicing to a day of mourning for the wicked that is spoken of in verse 4 which are concerned more with the feast and new moon being over so they can sale the grain and cheat the poor, than keeping the commandments of YHWH.

 

I believe that Amos 8 is a vision of the end time when our Saviour comes (on the day of Pentecost) to gather His wheat into the barn and destroy the wicked and we are told that day should not take us unawares and most people do not even know when the true Pentecost is.  There are many Scriptures that prove He is coming again on Pentecost as He did on Mount Sinai when He came with 10 thousands of his saints and gave the Law to Moses, written in stone, (3000 souls destroyed) and as He came on the day of Pentecost in the book of Acts and put His laws in their heart by the Holy Spirit (3000 souls saved).  I have many Scriptures to support a Pentecost second coming but that is not the intent here.

 

 

If Amos 8 had to do with a feast/Chag, and I believe it does, it has to be the feast of Pentecost/Chag because the New Moon is mentioned which does not fit with the feast of Passover, Tabernacles, or the traditional count of 50 days from wave sheaf which is around 6 days after the New Moon of the 3rd month is over. 

 

The reason the Amos 8 feast does not fit with the Passover Chag when the new barley crop is ready on the morrow after the Sabbath that the Priest waves the wave sheaf is because the new moon is still approximately 15 days away and there would be no need to say when will the new moon be gone that we may sale barley.  Notice the grain in Amos 8 was talking about wheat and summer wheat at that.  The barley and Winter wheat are spring crops.  The same will be the true for the Chag/Feast of Tabernacles which is also on the 15th and is not near a new moon day.  And as I said above, the traditional Pentecost is after the new moon of the third month and there would be no need for such a statement as “when will the new moon be gone.”

 

Philo also called the Pentecost wheat summer fruit and when I was growing up we had bushel baskets, peck basket etc. to put the fruit of corn, peas, etc. in.

 

 

The bottom line is if Amos 8 has to do with a feast/Chag, it conclusively proves a fourth month Pentecost because that is the only way it can be because of the new moon.

 

 

Tracing the count to Pentecost from the wave sheaf in the first month to the day that Aaron proclaimed was a feast/Chag to YHWH in the fourth month instead of the traditional third month Pentecost.

If we can successfully trace the count from the wave sheaf to a day that Aaron proclaimed was a Chag, (Hebrew word for one the three  major feasts of YHWH), it conclusively proves that Leviticus 23:15-16 should be interpreted or understood that there are "TWO" counts involved in counting to Pentecost, one for the seven Sabbath complete and the other for the 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath. The instructions were to count seven sabbaths and number 50 days.

 (Leviticus 23:15-16)

15And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16Even unto the morrow "after" the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.

The  following chart shows that if you count seven lunar sabbaths complete (which do not include New Moon days when counting out the weeks) unto the morrow "after" the seventh Sabbath and then number 50 days, it will be the exact same day that Aaron, YHWH high priest, proclaims a Chag to YHWH.

Remember  Chag is a very specific Hebrew word which is only used to refer to one the three major feasts of YHWH and is NEVER used any other way. It was in the fourth month that Aaron proclaimed it which rules out Unleavened Bread and Tabernacles, leaving only "Pentecost" which was AFTER  50 days were numbered AFTER the 7th Lunar Sabbath complete as Lev-23:16 calls for.

 

"1st Month"

 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8th/Sabbath 9 10 11 12 13 14th the Lamb slain between the evenings

 15th Sabbath and 1st day of feast of Unleavened Bread and day Houses Passed over in Egypt and thrust out of Rameses Num-33:3

16th is wave sheaf and "beginning" of count for the "7 sabaths" complete.

17 18 19 20 21 22nd "1st Sabbath" 23 24 25 26 27 28 29th "2nd Sabbath".

30

"2nd Month "

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8th "3rd  Sabbath" 9 10 11 12 13 14 15th "4th Sabbath"

16th - 1st day of manna (Ex-16:1-29) 17 18 19 20 21 22nd "5th Sabbath" 23 24 25

26 27 28 29th "6th Sabbath"


 " 3rd Month"


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8th "7th Sabbath"complete and the "9th" day is the "first day" "AFTER" 7th Sabbath and the 1st day of the SECOND count where you are to NUMBER 50 days and then bring a new meat offering to YHWH.  Lev-23:15-16

10th is 2nd day after 11/3rd 12/4th 13/5th 14/6th 15 is Sabbath and 7th day of the count

16/8th day of the count to Pentecost and day they came to the Mount (Ex-19:1-3) see alsoThe Book Of Jubilees Ch. 1:1 they were also told on 16th to be ready for 3rd day Ex-19:11

17/9th day of count 18/10th day of count and it was also the 3rd day when YHWH spoke to people (Ex-19:10-24)

19/11th day of count and also 1st day that Moses goes Into Mt. for 40 days and 40 nights. Ex-24:4-18

 20/12th day of count and 2nd day Moses in mt. 21/13th  22/Sabbath and 14th day of count to Pentecost 23/15th  24/16th

25/17th  26/18th  27/19th  28/20th  29th/Sabbath and 21st day of the count to Pentecost and a 30 day month would make it the 22nd day of the count to Pentecost.

 

"4th Month"

 

1/23rd day of count 2/24th  3/25th  4/26th  5/27th  6/28th  7/29th  8th/30th and Sabbath

9/31st day of count 10th 32ndday of count 11/33rd   12/34th  13/345th  14/36th  15th Sabbath and 37th day of count to Pentecost

16/38th  17/39th  18/40th  19/41st day of count 20/42nd  21/43rd  22/44th  23/45th

24/46th  25/47th  26/48th  27/49th  28th/50th "DAY" is numbered and then the New Meat offering is brought on  the 29th Sabbath. The beginning of the 29th was the 40th NIGHT of Moses's stay in the Mount and the 29th morning is the day that the Law and tables of stone was ACTUALLY given to Moses Ex-31:18 and Deut- 9:11 as YHWH promased in Ex-24:12   which was "AFTER" the 50th day was numbered. It was the day the Law was given, and the only way to Commemorate this Monumental event on the same day is to follow the instruction that was given by YHWH, not man.

 Brother Arnold

 


I can show where the "ancient Celtic" people observed the "firstfruits" of the "wheat harvest" in the "summertime" around the last day of "July" or the first day of August which is in harmony with counting the 50 days "after" the seventh Sabbath complete instead of 50 days from the wave sheaf or after the first Sabbath.

The following was gleaned from web sites under "Lammus" which means "loaf mass" although paganism has crept in as it has in all the feast of YHWH, we can still get an idea of how things were done if we know the scriptures.

LUGHNASADH
Kathleen Dupree

The "grain is ripe for harvest". Apple trees and gardens bear forth the fruits of "summer." This is the time of "Lughnasadh," the ancient Celtic festival held in celebration of the "first fruits" of the harvest.
The modern Irish spelling, Lúnasa, is the name of the month of "August' in Irish Gaelic. Lughnasadh, an older spelling, is often used to designate the name of the seasonal festival that surrounds the "first" day of the month of August. In Scots Gaelic the day is known as Lunasda or Lunasdal. This is the time that marks a rest from labor, a time to take stock of what the "summer sun" has yielded. It is a time to celebrate and enjoy the outcome of our daily toil.
At this gathering were held games and contests of skill as well as a great feast made up of the first fruits of the summer harvest.

http://www.leyline.org/cra/articles/lughnasadh.html


In the Celtic nations of Europe traditions surrounding Lughnasadh still continue from pre-Christian times. Most often, celebration of the holiday occurs on the first Sunday of August or the Sunday just before the first day of August. In modern Ireland the tradition still continues that on the last Sunday of "July" families ascend into the hills of the countryside to pick bilberries. The bilberries are symbolic of the bounty of Mother Earth at this time of year and of the fruits harvested in that ancient time when Tailltiu made a place for the grain that would feed the generations to come after her. With the coming of Christianity to the Celtic lands, the old festival of Lughnasadh took on Christian symbolism. Loaves of bread were baked from the first of the harvested grain and placed on the church altar on the first Sunday of August. The Christianized name for the feast of Lughnasadh is Lammas which means "loaf mass". And, of course, there are the fairs which are still held all across Europe and America.


Lughnasadh (Old Irish pronounced IPA: [lu¢°nəsə]) is a Gaelic holiday celebrated on the first of August, or at the time of the ripening of the local berry crop, or on the full moon nearest the midpoint between the summer solstice and autumnal equinox.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lughnasadh


Ancient celebration
Lughnasadh was one of the four main festivals of the medieval Irish calendar: Imbolc at the beginning of February, Beltane on the first of May, Lughnasadh in August and Samhain in October. The early Celtic calendar was based on the lunar, solar, and vegetative cycles, so the actual calendar date was variable. Lughnasadh marked the beginning of the harvest season, the ripening of "first fruits," and was traditionally a time of community gatherings, market festivals, horse races and reunions with distant family and friends. Among the Irish it was a favored time for handfastings - trial marriages that would generally last a year and a day, with the option of ending the contract before the new year, or later formalizing it as a more permanent marriage.[1][2][3]

One historical example of handfastings as trial marriages is that of "Telltown marriages" - named for the year and a day trial marriages contracted at the yearly festival held in Telltown, Ireland. The festival took place every year at Lughnasadh (August 1), and the trial marriage would last until the next Lughnasadh festival. At that time, they were free to leave the union if they desired.

August 1 is the 213th day of the year in the Gregorian calendar (214th in leap years), with 152 days remaining.


Lughnasadh 2006
Lughnasadh (pronounced lune-ah-sah) was "a summer festival of the ancient Celts," celebrated around August 1. My understanding is that it is known that it was celebrated at either the full moon or the new moon closest to the midpoint between the summer solstice and the autumnal equinox. Since the midpoint is on August 6th, that means that this year, Lughnasadh falls on either July 25 (the new moon).


Colors: Gray, green, gold, yellow
Symbols: All grains, breads, threshing tools, athame
Date: Occurs 1/4 of a year after Beltaine. True astrological point is 15 degrees Leo, but tradition has set August 1st as the day it is typically celebrated. Since the Ancients Celts passed their days from sundown to sundown, the celebration would usually begin the night before on July 31st.

http://thunder.prohosting.com/~cbarstow/lammas.html

This "sabbat" is also known as the celebration of bread. As bread was one of the main staples of our ancestors, the ripening of the grain was the cause for great celebration. The reaping, threshing and preparation of these breads spawned great ritual and ceremony to ensure bounty for the following year.

This time of the year finds us with fields to harvest, the first of a bountiful crop that will hold us through the winter months. Even though the hottest days of summer are upon us, we have but to observe to see that fall is just around the corner. Shadows are growing longer as the days slowly become shorter. Squirrels are busily gathering food for the coming winter. It is a time to begin canning produce from the garden, a time to save and preserve.

Some ideas for celebration include:
• Sacrifice bad habits and unwanted things from your life by throwing symbols of them into the sabbat fire.
• Bake a loaf of bread in the shape of a man and sacrifice him in your ritual. Make him a part of your feast but save a piece to offer the gods.
• Take time to actually harvest fruits from your garden with your family. If you don’t have a garden, visit one of the pick-your-own farms in your area.
• Include bilberries or blueberries in your feast; these were a traditional fruit, whose abundance was seen as an indicator of the harvest to come.
• Gather the tools of your trade and bless them in order to bring a richer harvest next year.
• Share your harvest with others who are less fortunate.
• Decorate with sickles, scythes, fresh vegetables & fruits, grains, berries, corn dollies, bread. Colors are orange, gold, yellow, red and bronze.


January - Wolf Moon
February - Storm Moon
March - Chaste Moon
April - Seed Moon
May - Hare Moon
June - Dyad Moon July - Mead Moon
"August – “Corn Moon”
September - Harvest Moon
October - Blood Moon
November - Snow Moon
December - Cold Moon

Bilberries are rarely cultivated but fruits are sometimes collected from wild plants growing on publicly accessible lands, notably in Fennoscandia, Scotland, Ireland and Poland. Notice that in Fennoscandia, it is an everyman's right to collect bilberries, irrespective of land ownership. In Ireland the fruit is known as fraughan in English, from the Irish fraochán, and is traditionally gathered on the last Sunday in July, known as Fraughan Sunday.

Bilberries were also collected at Lughnassadh, the first traditional harvest festival of the year, as celebrated by the Gaelic people. The crop of billberries was said to indicate how well the rest of the crops would fare in their harvests later in the year.


In English-speaking countries, August 1 is Lammas Day or loaf-mass day, the festival of the first wheat harvest of the year. On this day it was customary to bring to church a loaf made from the new crop. In many parts of England, tenants were bound to present freshly harvested wheat to their landlords on or before the first day of August. In the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, where it is referred to regularly, it is called "the feast of first fruits". The blessing of new fruits was performed annually in both the Eastern and Western Churches on the first, or the sixth, of August. The Sacramentary of Pope Gregory I (d. 604) specifies the sixth.

In "mediæval times" the feast was known as the "Gule of August", but the meaning of "gule" is unknown. Ronald Hutton suggests that it may be an Anglicisation of gwyl aust, the Welsh name for August 1 meaning "feast of August", but this is not certain. If so, this points to a pre-Christian origin for Lammas among the Anglo-Saxons and a link to the Gaelic festival of Lughnasadh


The Old Ways: Lammas
by Doug and Sandy Kopf

Lammas, the festival of the First Fruits of the Harvest, is the first festival of the Waning Year. It is celebrated on July 31, while the climate (in the United States) is essentially still Summer.

Lammas takes its name from the Old English "hlaf," meaning "loaf" and "maesse," meaning “feast”. Lammas has often been taken to mean Lamb-mass, because on August 1, the next day, is the Feast of St. Peter's Chains, at which lambs are taken to church for blessing. (Can't you just picture a priest of the early Church saying, "Lammas? We can do that HERE! Just tell them to bring their lambs to Church!)

This festival is also called "Lugnasadh" (Loo-nah-sah), which has an entirely different meaning. The element "nasadh" relates to the Gaelic, "to give in marriage," and so would mean the "Marriage of Lug," rather than Lugh's Mass, which is a common interpretation. There is also some debate as to who the bride is, if there is one. Some authorities favor Tailltiu (Lugh's foster mother) and others favor Eriu, i.e., Ireland, herself.

Although we do not celebrate a marriage at this time, preferring the loaf-feast concept, it is interesting to note that July 31 is exactly nine months prior to Beltane, which was once celebrated as the beginning of the New Year.

Until recent years, in Scotland, the first cut of the Harvest was made on Lammas Day, and was a ritual in itself. The entire family must dress in their finest clothing and go into the fields. The head of the family would lay his bonnet (hat) on the ground and, facing the Sun, cut the first handful of corn with a sickle. He would then put the corn Sun-wise around his head three times while thanking the God of the Harvest for "corn and bread, food and flocks, wool and clothing, health and strength, and peace and plenty." This custom was called the "Iolach Buana."

In the British Isles, the custom of giving the First Fruits to the Gods evolved into giving them to the landlord. Lammas is now the traditional time for tenant farmers to pay their rent. Thus, Lammas is seen as a day of judgment or reckoning. From this practice comes the phrase "--at latter Lammas", meaning "never", or "not until Judgment Day."

An old custom that can be re-created today is the construction of the Kern-baby or corn maiden at Lammas. This figure, originally made from the first sheaf, would be saved until spring, "then" ploughed into the field to prepare for planting. (The Maiden thus returns to the field at Spring.) Most of us, today, have no first sheaf nor shall we prepare a field at Spring, but as a means of adding continuity to our festivals, the maiden can be made from the husks of corn served at the Lammas Feast, then saved for use as a brideo'g at Candlemas.


"We have come together here on this August Eve, to celebrate Lammas, the First Harvest, and the first day of the harvesting season. In these more modern times it may be hard for some of us to relate to the old ways of farming, planting and harvesting crops. Of deciding what seeds to keep for future planting. The work of the harvest, the chopping away and turning under of the chafe. Even though most of us no longer farm, Lammas is still a time when we should stop and consider what has happened in the past seasons of our lives and what we expect to take place in the seasons to come. This is a time to be aware of the things we have for which we are grateful and decide what things we need to let go of and let pass away from us."

"Lammas was the medieval Christian name for the Celtic holiday of Lughnasadh. Lammas literally translates 'loaf-mass' and is the Feast of Bread in August. Lammas is a time of appreciation for nature, for Mother Earth and her gifts. In ancient times on this day loaves were baked from the first grain harvest and laid on the church altars as offerings. At this time the best of the first fruits of the harvest were sacrificed in order to ensure that future crops would be even better and more bountiful. Our Ancestors understood that we must first give in order to receive."

Even the Oak trees observe first fruits in the 4th month.

 In August at the height of the summer when most other trees are wilting from the heat, the oak produces a new leaf called “Lammas shoots” thus adding new colour and freshness to the tree. These new leafy shoots are golden-pink when young, turning from pale to dark green as they harden. In autumn the oak tree is at its most majestic as its leaves change colour again turning from dark green to various shades of yellow, orange, russet and a pale golden brown. The leaves sometime stay on the tree until the following spring or until the new buds forming for the next year push them off.
http://www.controverscial.com/Oak.htm


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Answer for yourself: Is Jesus being challenged by these evil Pharisees accurate to Jewish theology and Jewish history? No not really as we show in other articles where Jesus was likewise supposedly challenged by the Pharisees for healing on the Sabbath and eating of the Sabbath. Jewish law allows for both healing on the Sabbath as well as plucking and eating grain on the Sabbath when one's life is endangered and we find Jesus in the text fleeing from Herod Antipas. This action would be perfectly permissible by Jewish Law but the writers of the New Testament had to show the opposition to Jesus and did so by misrepresenting the Pharisees. This dualism between light and darkness and it constant and eternal struggle is pictured in these false representations of the Pharisees.

 

 

 

 

 

We mentioned previously that at the Solstices, both the Winter and the Summer Solstices, the earth's tilt reaches it maximum and begins to retrograde and along with this it appear that the Earth has remained motionless or "dead" once again in 3 years. In keeping with the parallel of the personification of the Sun and the life and evolution of the life and ministry of Jesus in the New Testament we should expect to find at this particular time in the ministry of Jesus some reference to "death for 3 days".

Answer for yourself: Do we find such a reference in sequence to the events in the life of this Jesus as found in the Gospel account of a death for 3 days? We sure do!

Matt 12:38-40 38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. (KJV)

Here we find, in sequential order in the Gospels mind you, Jesus' reference to the Summer Solstice and the 3 days of death of Jonas where he is in the belly of the big fish. This teaching of Jesus occurs when the Sun is in Gemini which is the time of the Summer Soltice. This death of Jonas is likened by Jesus to his own coming death at the next Solstice which is 6 months away, the Winter Solstice, were like Jonas he will remain dead for 3 days like the Sun is dead for 3 days before being resurrected again.

Answer for yourself: Is this just a lucky coincidence that when the Sun remains "dead" in the Heavens and Sky for 3 days, at the Summer and Winter Solstice, we find Jonas dead for 3 days and later Jesus dead 3 days?

We find associated with this event the challenge of those bad Pharisees that seem to be constantly challenging Jesus in the "Jesus Story" just like the Sun is constantly challenged by the darkness continually in its rise to its zenith of strength at the Summer solstice in Gemini.

John 3:19-21 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. (KJV)

Jesus, as the personified Sun, conquers the evil of the religious leaders of Israel. This shows his greater strength over his adversaries just like the Sun shows its maximum strength in rising to its zenith in the Sky at the Summer solstice. But we are not finished yet.

Answer for yourself: Are there more contests of strength over darkness that are associated with this sabbath account in the New Testament? Yes there is.

Jesus, as the personified Sun, again shows his unbeatable power over demons as he cures a man with withered hand in Matt.12:9-14.

Matt 12:9-14 9 And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue: 10 And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him. 11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out? 12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days. 13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other. 14 Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him. (KJV)

Again we have a Sabbath account where to those not familiar with Judaism it appears that healing on the Sabbath is a crime. Not so. The only deeds prohibited on the Sabbath as types of "work" not allowed are those categories of work associated with the building of the Temple and "healing the sick" is not one of them. Again we have the tragic misrepresentation of Judaism as a harsh religion when it is not but at the same time the Pharisees are made to appear evil when they were not.

Answer for yourself: What lies behind these unhistorical accounts?

More to the point we find the eternal struggle of light versus darkness in this depiction just like we find in the path of the Sun in its rise to its zenith at the Summer solstice. Notice we are moving through the Gospels in chronological sequence in the life and ministry of Jesus just like the Sun in move in sequence in its path through the Heavens and not surprisingly the "Jesus Story" is in step with the Sun's increasing and ascending path through the Sky.

Next we see this eternal struggle in the next account of healing a man who is blind and mute in Matt. 12:22.

Matt 12:22 22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. (KJV)

Answer for yourself: Again I ask you is this a coincidence that Jesus, as the light of the world, cures a man blind who epitomizes the great power of darkness in the world? Again as I see it having studied Comparative Religion now for over ten years and before us in the Gospel accounts of the "Jesus Story" is the age old battle of the Sun against the darkness whom we call the "darkness-evil", "dark-evil", "d-evil", the "devil".

But we are not finished yet.

As the Sun approaches Gemini and enters into the sign of Gemini we experience a time of increasing or doubling as the Sun reaches its zenith in the Sky. The Sun's path through the constellation of Gemini ends on the Summer solstice when days are the longest and nights the shortest. The Sun is at the peak of its strength.

At its zenith, the Sun straddles over its descent into darkness. The Pharisees are made to call him the prince of demons.

Matt 12:24 24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. (KJV)

In the gospel of John the first time we meet Thomas he is identified as "the Twin," (in Greek Didymos) and this is repeated in John 21:2. This "name" for Thomas is not recorded in the other three New Testament gospels, and the fourth gospel does not explain whose "twin" Thomas is. But in the Syrian Church, there is no doubt that Thomas is the "twin" of Jesus.

This astounding belief comes from the gospel of Thomas, which begins: "These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded." Some Syrian manuscript versions of John 14:22 identify the disciple Judas (the Judas who isn't Judas Iscariot) as "Judas Thomas," and in the Syrian Christian tradition the apostle Thomas and "Didymos Judas Thomas" or "Judas Thomas" are understood to be the same person.

Answer for yourself: Were you aware that Ancient legends suggest that St. Thomas the Doubter was Jesus twin brother? How is this connected to the "Jesus Story"?

Well let us begin taking notice that the name Thomas Didymos means "twin" in two different languages. That means it was so important to some people that he's called that twice, just to make sure we know. Interesting, right? I think so.

Answer for yourself: Are you aware that one of Jesus' disciples was named the same name as an astrological sign? Are you aware that one of Jesus' disciples was names after the constellation Gemini? Coincidence, you say? Maybe so, maybe no. Let's jump into the myth surrounding the zodiac sign of Gemini and see what we can find and then you decided if this is but coincidence.

Answer for yourself: Can you guess what you get when you translate "didymai" (plural form of didymos) into Latin! You get "Gemini"!

Answer for yourself: Don't you think it rather strange that we have an Ancient Church tradition that connects Jesus and Gemini? Could this be more evidence that links the "Jesus Story" with the Sun passing through the Zodiac?

In classical Greek mythology, the stars in the constellation of Gemini were named Castor and Pollux, known collectively as the "Dioscuri" or "Sons of Zeus." Although Leda was mother to both, the twins had different fathers. Pollux was the son of the chief Olympian God, Zeus, who had changed himself into a swan in order pursue the lovely Leda. Thus, Pollux was immortal. Castor was not immortal therefore being the son of Leda's husband, Tyndareus, King of Sparta, he was destined to die. So now we have a pair of twins, one who is divinely conceived and one who is born of an earthly father. This is very interesting and should make you wonder at what is coming next. To me, this already triggers all kinds of Christology that is associated with the "Jesus Story" but lets not jump the gun here and get back to Gemini.

This dual structure of the hero reappears in the archetypal motif of the Twin Brothers, one mortal, the other immortal, the most obvious instance being the Greek myth of the Dioscuri [Castor and Pollux]. Their mother, in the same night, conceived the immortal son in the embrace of Zeus and the mortal son in the embrace of her husband Tyndarus. Again, Herakles [Hercules] was begotten by Zeus, and his twin brother by Amphitryon. We are also told that the mother of Theseus was impregnated in the same night by Poseidon and King Aegeus... (Erich Neumann, The Origins and History of Consciousness, p. 136).

Answer for yourself: Did you notice we have the same story again but this time about Hercules? Is there some kind of pattern forming here? It sure would seem so. Apparently, this idea of twins - one divine, one earthly - shows up around the world in almost every nation "under the Sun".

Answer for yourself: Did you know that one of these twins is sacrificed in order to ensure a better world and this idea comes up again and again from nation to nation as well?

Answer for yourself: Is it possible then that Jesus and his twin, Thomas Didymos, are yet another example of this ancient mythological theme? I think it's not only possible, but extremely likely.

Answer for yourself: Is it but coincidence that we find that Jesus was the son conceived in Mary by God, in the form of the Holy Spirit, and this would make Thomas, the earthly son, conceived by Joseph (paralleled to Castor and Pollux)?

Answer for yourself: So what have we seen? We saw that the Sun is moving Northward in the sky to its zenith at the Summer solstice where its power and might is the maximum and likewise we see the strength of Jesus exhibited in his tackling the whole of the Jewish religious establishment over issues like healing on the Sabbath and plucking and eating grain on the Sabbath which likewise shows his power and authority over darkness of the Pharisees. But we are coming to a turning point in the ministry of Jesus; whereas his ministry has been largely successful up to now we will find that once Jesus, as the personified Sun, lips over the zenith a the Summer Solstice it is literally all downhill for Jesus from then on as his ministry is in decline exactly like the Sun it the Sky as both move toward their ultimate death.

But we are not finished.

Now me move on to Jesus' transfiguration at the Summer Solstice. One night, during dinner with his disciples, Jesus foretells of his suffering (that he will be betrayed by one of them), death, and resurrection. {short description of image}To prove this is all true and voluntary, Jesus then leads three of his disciples to a very high mountain (symbolically halfway between Heaven and Earth), where he undergoes the Transfiguration from Jesus to the Christ figure, the true Son of God. He then comes down from the mountain and begins his priestly ministry (Mat. 17:1-13, Mark 9:2-13, Luke 9:28-36).

Matt 17:1-13 1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, 2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the Sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. 4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. 5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. 6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. 7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid. 8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only. 9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. 10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? 11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. 12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. 13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist. (KJV)

In the "Jesus Story" we find Jesus transfigured on a mountain in front of his disciples, Peter, James and John. Note the parallel to the story that Jesus goes to a high mountain top and shines brightly, just as the Sun is high in the sky and shines warmly and brightly during the Summer months.

Answer for yourself: Are you aware that several other savior-gods were likewise transfigured on mountain tops? We can begin at the beginning with Osiris as usual. G. Massey explains in his The Historical Jesus or the Mythical Christ, on page 78, the mythical meaning of the transfiguration. Massey relates that the scene on the Mount of Transfiguration is obviously derived from the ascent of Osiris into the mount of the moon. The sixth day was celebrated as that of the change and transformation of the solar god into the lunar orb, when he re-entered on that day as the regenerator of its light. With this we may compare the statement made by Matthew, that "after six days Jesus" went "up into a high mountain apart; and he was transfigured," "and his face did shine as the Sun, and his garments became white as the light."

 In Egypt the year began soon after the Summer Solstice, when the Sun descended from its midsummer height, lost its force, and lessened in its size. This by now we should know from our studies. This represented Osiris, who was born of the Virgin Mother as the child Horus, the diminished infantile Sun of Autumn; the suffering, wounded, bleeding Messiah, as he was represented. Osiris, killed by his brother Set, himself personified Darkness, descended into hell, or hades, where he was transformed into the virile Horus, and rose again as the Sun of the resurrection at Easter.

Massey goes on to explain that after such glory exhibited by the Sun at the Winter solstice we even see in the above passage the hint of the decline of the Sun who has just reached its triumph in the Sky as Jesus, as the personified form of the Sun, forecasts his inevitable death at the soon coming Winter solstice.

Taken "literally" then we miss the hidden truths of the "Inner Mysteries" intended only for the initiates into the "mystery" behind the "Jesus Story". We grew up as Christians and followers of "the Christ" in the Outer Mysteries of Christianity taking everything we read "literally"; never realizing that the Ancients had a hidden meaning in the Inner Mysteries reserved for only the few who desired such higher truths from God.

Answer for yourself: Does any of this sound familiar to you? Could the "Jesus Story" be the original "Osiris Story" and we not know it? And are both nothing more than personifications of the Sun and its path through the Zodiac and the stars?

So we move on to the next article in this series as we follow the Sun in its path in the Heavens out of Gemini into Cancer and see if our pattern of the life and ministry of Jesus in the "Jesus Story" can follow the path of the Sun through the Zodiac as it reaches its Zenith and we should expect soon to see Jesus' transfiguration and we will as we read that his "face shined like the Sun".

Let us continue with the next article in this series.

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Exod 32:4 4 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt. 32:5 5 And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD. (KJV)

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This again explains why "Fish symbology" which runs so characteristically through the entire Gospel story (miracles of the fishes, call of fishermen, fishers of men, etc.) and why Christ's disciples were largely fishermen. The Sun had entered the Constellation of Pisces and it was time for a new "interpretation" of God and His "Karst" and we have it in the Christ of Christianity and its emphasis upon Christ's followers being{short description of image} fishermen and "fishers of men". It is written that the Christ performed the miracles with fishes and sent his apostles out after his death under the leadership of St. Peter with the injunction to be fishers of men. It is for this reason that the mitre (hat) which the Pope wears is the mouth of the fish.

Now, according to Astronomy mankind is currently transiting into the sign of Aquarius, the sign of the water-carrier, the sign of universality, for water is a universal symbol. It is recorded for us in the New Testament that prior to his death Christ sent his disciples out to find the "water-bearer" who led them to an upper room where the communion service was instituted. All this was in the text is the recognition by{short description of image} the Christ (personified as the Sun) of the coming New Age which would succeed his dispensation and into which we are at this time entering. Leonardo da Vinci's great picture of the communion in the upper room is the great symbol of the Aquarian age, for we shall sit down together under the loving direction of Christ (the vehicle and agent (Logos) of Revelation of God to mankind) when brotherhood will be established and men will be banded together in the bonds of divine relationship. The old barriers between man and man and nation and nation will, during the next 2,160 years slowly disappear. Ironically this picture was known by the Ancients to have astrological connections as it represented again the Sun and the Zodiac "personified". Take a close look at the picture and how it has been divided by modern scholarship who is aware of its Astronomical Symbolism: 4 groupings of 3 disciples corresponding to the 2 Equinoxes and 2 Solstices, each containing groups of 3 reflective of the months in each time period separating the Equinoxes and Solstices.

Answer for yourself: Is this another coincidence?

These "Spiritual concepts" have been with mankind since the beginning of time and this explains why in the worlds' religions we find unbelievable "common themes" and "overlap" of these "Celestial beliefs" at the heart of these various religions. And we should since mankind all sees the same things in the Sky and God's Heaven.

Understanding the above then we should know that regardless of attempts to make Mithraism the plagiarist of Christianity, the fact will remain that Mithraism originated long before Christianity and was well established decades before Christianity had any significant influence. If Christian apologists will not yield to the well-attested assertion that Christianity "borrowed" from Mithraism in specific, they simply cannot deny that both copied from Paganism in general, from one or more of the numerous religions, cults and mysteries of the pre-Christian world. Hence, the effect is the same: Christianity took its "godman" and religious beliefs and religious tenets attached to him from prior Nations and their understanding of the Precession of the Equinoxes as it was later "personified" and "allegorized"!

 

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20:1 El primer día de la semana, María Magdalena fue de mañana, siendo aún oscuro, al sepulcro; y vio quitada la piedra del sepulcro. (Siendo aun oscuro es un nexo con GENESIS 32 CON JACOB/ISRAEL cuando le fue cambiado el nombre y con EXODO 32 QUE ES EL VERDADERO PENTECOSTES. NOTEN LA RELACION BECERRO DE ORO/TAURO/PLEYADES CON PENTECOSTES. Sin lugar a dudas que el BECERRO DE ORO es un nexo con las PLEYADES CON FUERTE RELACION CON MARIA MAGDALENA. SI BIEN SE COMETIO IDOLATRIA CON EL BECERRO, la palabra es clara en RELACIONAR EL VERDADERO SHAVUOT CON EL MISMO. La aparicion del PRIMER DIA DE LA SEMANA (SUNDAY) DIA DEL SOL, es una obvia simbologia ESPIRITUAL CON PENTECOSTES QUE ES EN EL SOLSTICIO DE VERANO. La relacion CON EL DIA DEL SEÑOR DE APOCALIPSIS 1:10 EN CONTEXTO A LAS 7 ESTRELLAS es contextual a lo que estamos expresando) 
 

20:2 Entonces corrió, y fue a Simón Pedro y al otro discípulo, aquel al que amaba Jesús, y les dijo: Se han llevado del sepulcro al Señor, y no sabemos dónde le han puesto. (Es llamativa la aparicion de PEDRO Y EL DISCIPULO AMADO en todo este contexto)
 

20:3 Y salieron Pedro y el otro discípulo, y fueron al sepulcro.
20:4 Corrían los dos juntos; pero el otro discípulo corrió más aprisa que Pedro, y llegó primero al sepulcro.
20:5 Y bajándose a mirar, vio los lienzos puestos allí, pero no entró.
20:6 Luego llegó Simón Pedro tras él, y entró en el sepulcro, y vio los lienzos puestos allí,
20:7 y el sudario, que había estado sobre la cabeza de Jesús, no puesto con los lienzos, sino enrollado en un lugar aparte.
20:8 Entonces entró también el otro discípulo, que había venido primero al sepulcro; y vio, y creyó.
20:9 Porque aún no habían entendido la Escritura, que era necesario que él resucitase de los muertos.
20:10 Y volvieron los discípulos a los suyos.
20:11 Pero María estaba fuera llorando junto al sepulcro; y mientras lloraba, se inclinó para mirar dentro del sepulcro;
20:12 y vio a dos ángeles con vestiduras blancas, que estaban sentados el uno a la cabecera, y el otro a los pies, donde el cuerpo de Jesús había sido puesto.
20:13 Y le dijeron: Mujer, ¿por qué lloras? Les dijo: Porque se han llevado a mi Señor, y no sé dónde le han puesto.
20:14 Cuando había dicho esto, se volvió, y vio a Jesús que estaba allí; mas no sabía que era Jesús.
20:15 Jesús le dijo: Mujer, ¿por qué lloras? ¿A quién buscas? Ella, pensando que era el hortelano, le dijo: Señor, si tú lo has llevado, dime dónde lo has puesto, y yo lo llevaré.
20:16 Jesús le dijo: ¡María! Volviéndose ella, le dijo: ¡Raboni! (que quiere decir, Maestro).
20:17 Jesús le dijo: No me toques, porque aún no he subido a mi Padre; mas ve a mis hermanos, y diles: Subo a mi Padre y a vuestro Padre, a mi Dios y a vuestro Dios. (Aqui hay una relacion con el PACTO ABRAHAMICO DE GENESIS 17 Y EL PACTO DE 2 DE SAMUEL 7:12, osea del linaje davidico. OSEA que MARIA MAGDALENA ES UNA NUEVA SARA, RAQUEL Y BETSABE, la madre de SALOMON.) 
 
80. Génesis 17:7: Y estableceré mi pacto entre mí y ti, y tu descendencia después de ti en sus generaciones, por pacto perpetuo, para ser tu DIOS, y el de tu descendencia después de ti.
 
81. Génesis 17:8: Y te daré a ti, y a tu descendencia después de ti, la tierra en que moras, toda la tierra de Canaán en heredad perpetua; y seré el DIOS de ellos.
 
82. Génesis 17:9: Dijo de nuevo DIOS a Abraham: En cuanto a ti, guardarás mi pacto, tú y tu descendencia después de ti por sus generaciones.
 
83. Génesis 17:15: Dijo también DIOS a Abraham: A Sarai tu mujer no la llamarás Sarai, mas Sara será su nombre.
 
84. Génesis 17:18: Y dijo Abraham a DIOS: Ojalá Ismael viva delante de ti.
 
85. Génesis 17:19: Respondió DIOS: Ciertamente Sara tu mujer te dará a luz un hijo, y llamarás su nombre Isaac; y confirmaré mi pacto con él como pacto perpetuo para sus descendientes después de él.
487. 2 Samuel 7:14: Yo le seré a él PADRE, y él me será a mí hijo. Y si él hiciere mal, yo le castigaré con vara de hombres, y con azotes de hijos de hombres;
 
2. 2 Samuel 12:24: Y consoló David a Betsabé su mujer, y llegándose a ella durmió con ella; y ella le dio a luz un hijo, y llamó su nombre Salomón, al cual amó Jehová,


20:18 Fue entonces María Magdalena para dar a los discípulos las nuevas de que había visto al Señor, y que él le había dicho estas cosas.
20:19 Cuando llegó la noche de aquel mismo día, el primero de la semana, estando las puertas cerradas en el lugar donde los discípulos estaban reunidos por miedo de los judíos, vino Jesús, y puesto en medio, les dijo: Paz a vosotros.
20:20 Y cuando les hubo dicho esto, les mostró las manos y el costado. Y los discípulos se regocijaron viendo al Señor.
20:21 Entonces Jesús les dijo otra vez: Paz a vosotros. Como me envió el Padre, así también yo os envío.
20:22 Y habiendo dicho esto, sopló, y les dijo: Recibid el Espíritu Santo. (Fuerte relacion con PENTECOSTES)
20:23 A quienes remitiereis los pecados, les son remitidos; y a quienes se los retuviereis, les son retenidos.
20:24 Pero Tomás, uno de los doce, llamado Dídimo, no estaba con ellos cuando Jesús vino.
20:25 Le dijeron, pues, los otros discípulos: Al Señor hemos visto. El les dijo: Si no viere en sus manos la señal de los clavos, y metiere mi dedo en el lugar de los clavos, y metiere mi mano en su costado, no creeré.
20:26 Ocho días después, estaban otra vez sus discípulos dentro, y con ellos Tomás. Llegó Jesús, estando las puertas cerradas, y se puso en medio y les dijo: Paz a vosotros.
20:27 Luego dijo a Tomás: Pon aquí tu dedo, y mira mis manos; y acerca tu mano, y métela en mi costado; y no seas incrédulo, sino creyente.
20:28 Entonces Tomás respondió y le dijo: ¡Señor mío, y Dios mío!
20:29 Jesús le dijo: Porque me has visto, Tomás, creíste; bienaventurados los que no vieron, y creyeron.
20:30 Hizo además Jesús muchas otras señales en presencia de sus discípulos, las cuales no están escritas en este libro.
20:31 Pero éstas se han escrito para que creáis que Jesús es el Cristo, el Hijo de Dios, y para que creyendo, tengáis vida en su nombre.


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