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Mary Magdalene, Lilith, & the Redeemer (Exploring The Chosen Season 1 Episode 1 with Youth)

Updated: Jun 1

 

 
Elizabeth Tabish as Lilith/Mary Magdalene in The Chosen
 

**Update: I explore the origin of the name "Lilith" in my recent post **

 

 

Over the past year, we've been exploring how The Chosen adapts biblical characters like Mary MagdaleneNicodemusPeter, AndrewMatthewJesus, and the Romans. Meanwhile, in the youth ministry that I lead, I had the chance to view and discuss season one of The Chosen with several high schoolers and found it very fruitful. They were fully engaged by the show on the level of entertainment but also seemed solidify their understanding of important gospel events and figures, as well as the cultural context. As COVID drags on and winter sets in, if you're looking for a good activity to do online with your youth group, you might want to consider doing a series of The Chosen Viewing Parties like this. Below I'll share an outline describing how to do a Viewing Party for The Chosen Episode 1 (I Have Called You by Name).

 

 
 
 

 

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Warning Youth & Parents Before Viewing The Chosen Episode 1

 

You may want to warn students beforehand that this episode contains some demonic activity. It's certainly not The Exorcist, but demonic stuff can really freak some people out.

 

 

Introduction: What is The Chosen?

 

Without getting too detailed, I found it helpful to get my youth thinking about what adaptations are and how they work. Explain:

 
  • The Chosen is a multi-season streaming series that's adapting the four Gospels. Many characters and stories are based on events in the Gospels, but there are also characters and events that the creators made up to tie things together. There are also characters and stories from the Gospels that the creators have left out.

 

To clarify why the creators would want to add new characters and stories and leave some stories out, you could ask the following questions:

 
  • What are some other popular adaptations of books into film or  television? (ex. LOTR, Harry Potter)

  • In [adaptation], can you think of some characters or stories that were added by the film? Why do you think the creators added them? (for LOTR: Arwen's bigger role, some action scenes. They speak to different audiences & look good on screen)

  • Can you think of characters or stories that the film left out? Why do you think they were removed? (for LOTR: Tom Bombadil. Enough said.)

 

I wouldn't take too long discussing these questions. Just long enough to make this point:

 
  • Adaptations often add, change, and leave out details, because what works in a book isn't always the same as what works in television or film. The Chosen isn't trying to mess with the Bible. The creators make changes in order to adapt the biblical stories to  TV.

 

 
Paras Patel as Matthew in The Chosen
 

Preview: Key Characters & Expectations for The Chosen Episode 1

 

The Chosen introduces a lot of characters and expects us to just keep up. I found that my youth struggled to sort out the different characters, so you might want to do a quick slide show of the key characters using the character images I've included throughout this post.

 

 

I also suggest setting expectations for the first episode. Until Jesus shows up, some youth may find the show a little slow. We turned it into a bit of a game, where one of my youth would constantly ask "Is that Jesus?" every time a new character showed up.

 

 

Viewing The Chosen Episode 1

 

Due to COVID restrictions, my youth group watched The Chosen online using Zoom. You can find episode one free on YouTube here, although there are lots of ads. You can also purchase the DVDs of season 1 on Amazon if you're worried about trying to stream & do Zoom at the same time.

 

 

While watching the show, I made occasional comments through the chat but I tried to not do too much teaching - I wanted the youth to enjoy The Chosen and not just see it as an elaborate preaching illustration. For the most part, I just clarified who characters were (see my comment above) and occasionally I briefly explained a reference or allusion that was confusing to my youth. And we also just had fun chatting about random stuff, like how Quintus was totally fitting the stereotype of the evil bald guy.

 
Sahar Isaac as Simon Peter in The Chosen
 

 

The Chosen Episode 1 Discussion Questions

 

There are a few Bible passages that I thought were helpful to discuss the first episode of The Chosen. The first passage is regarding Mary Magdalene (Lilith):

 
Soon afterward he went on through cities and villages, proclaiming and bringing the good news of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with him, and also some women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities: Mary, called Magdalene, from whom seven demons had gone out, and Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod's household manager, and Susanna, and many others, who provided for them out of their means. (Luke 8:1-3 ESV)
 

I would explain:

 
  • In case you didn't catch it, at the end of The Chosen episode 1 we discover that the character called Lilith for most of the episode is actually named Mary Magdalene. This passage is one of the few appearances of Mary Magdalene in the Gospels. Episode 1 depicts how she got these demons cast out of her by Jesus.

  • The Gospels never refer to Mary as Lilith. The creators of The Chosen probably chose this name because it is associated with demons in Jewish traditions.

  • By noting how Mary is in the "Red Quarter", The Chosen is implying that she is a prostitute. The Bible never suggests Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. However, some biblical interpreters mistakenly labeled her as such because the story before Luke 8 is about a prostitute being forgiven. Over time, the label stuck and now many adaptations depict her this way.

 

After sharing that information, you can ask:

 
  • What stuck out to you about Mary Magdalene's depiction in The Chosen?

  • What do you think Mary's life was like before Jesus showed up?

  • Why do you think The Chosen depicted Mary as a prostitute?

  • Have you seen other examples of how Jesus can show up suddenly and change someone's life in a big way?

 

 
Jonathan Roumie as Jesus in The Chosen
 

The second passage is the Scripture that Mary has written down:

 
But now thus says the Lord, he who created you, O Jacob, he who formed you, O Israel: “Fear not, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name, you are mine. When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and through the rivers, they shall not overwhelm you; when you walk through fire you shall not be burned, and the flame shall not consume you. For I am the Lord your God, the Holy One of Israel, your Savior. (Isaiah 43:1-3 ESV)
 

I would explain:

 
  • This passage that Mary's father taught her is from the Book of Isaiah.

  • Many Christians still memorize this passage to remind them of how God is always with us, even in the most difficult trials. It's a great comfort in the midst of the pandemic and other turmoil.

 

Then you can ask:

 
  • In the passage, who is it that says, "I have called you by name"? (the Lord)

  • Who is it that says these words in the show? (Jesus)

  • What about Jesus' identity does this hint at? (he is God)

  • Can you think of moments when you may need to be reminded that God is with you?

 

The last passage is an optional bonus for youth that like digging deeper. It hints at where the show is going:

 
Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb. So she ran and went to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one whom Jesus loved, and said to them, “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him.” So Peter went out with the other disciple, and they were going toward the tomb…
 
But Mary stood weeping outside the tomb, and as she wept she stooped to look into the tomb. And she saw two angels in white, sitting where the body of Jesus had lain, one at the head and one at the feet. They said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping?”
 
She said to them, “They have taken away my Lord, and I do not know where they have laid him.”
 
Having said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing, but she did not know that it was Jesus. Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you seeking?”
 
Supposing him to be the gardener, she said to him, “Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have laid him, and I will take him away.”
 
Jesus said to her, “Mary.”
 
She turned and said to him in Aramaic, “Rabboni!” (which means Teacher).
 
Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
 
Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord”—and that he had said these things to her. (John 20:1-3, 11-18, ESV)
 

I would explain:

 
  • This passage takes place after Jesus' death and resurrection at the end of the Gospels.

 

Then you can ask:

 
  • Initially Mary doesn't recognize Jesus. Did anyone notice what it was that made her recognize him? (he calls her by her name)

  • How does this connect to what happened in episode 1? (he calls her by name at the end when he heals her)

  • Why do you think The Chosen is trying to connect episode 1 to what will happen when Jesus is resurrected?

  • Do you believe Jesus knows you by name? How does that truth encourage you?

 

 

There you go! Hopefully these questions will prove helpful as you watch episode 1 of The Chosen with your youth group. I've condensed the lesson into an easily printable pdf below. If you try it out, please let me know how it goes and if you have any feedback!

 
 

 

The Chosen Season 1 Episode 1 & Scripture FAQ

 

 

Was Mary Magdalene possessed by Lilith and healed by Jesus?

 

The Bible includes Mary Magdalene in a list of women who had evil spirits healed by Jesus. Jesus is said to have cast seven evil spirits out of her (Luke 8:1-3). The specific demon is not named in Scripture.

 

 

In The Chosen, when we first Mary Magdalene in Season 1 Episode 1, she has already been possessed by an evil spirit, Lilith, for some time. Jesus heals her evil spirit(s) at the end of Episode 1.

 


 

Why is Mary Magdalene called Lili or Lilith in The Chosen?

 

Mary Magdalene is never called Lili or Lilith in the Bible. In The Chosen, when we first meet Mary Magdalene, most of the characters refer to her as Lili. When Nicodemus encounters her, we discover that the evil spirit that is possessing her is named Lilith. After Jesus heals her evil spirit, she resumes calling herself "Mary," her birth name, and refuses to answer to the name associated with her spiritual oppression.

 


 

Who is Lilith in the Bible?

 

The Hebrew word "lilit" only shows up in Isaiah 34:14, where most modern translations render it as something along the lines of "night bird." However, some scholars believe the word would be better translated as demoness and see it is a reference to a Mesopotamian spiritual being. Later Jewish tradition described a demonic figure known as Lilith in a variety of ways. For more details, check out my post focused specifically on Lilith, Demons, and Evil Spirits.

 


 

Did Nicodemus try to help Mary Magdalene?

 

In the Bible, there is no indication that Nicodemus met Mary Magdalene or that he tried to heal her or exorcise her evil spirits.

 

 

In The Chosen, Nicodemus meets Mary Magdalene in Season 1, Episode 1. He attempts to heal her and exorcise the evil spirit in her, but he is unsuccessful and concludes that she is beyond hope. When he encounters her again in Season 1 Episode 2, he is surprised to discover that she has been completely healed and is free of the evil spirits. This story was invented by The Chosen for the purposes of the plot.

 


 

Was Mary Magdalene a prostitute?

 

As I noted above, in the Bible there is no indication that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. Her association with prostitution was a result of the proximity between the first mention of her in Luke (Luke 8:1-3) and a story about a prostitute (Luke 7:36-50). Over time, the Western artistic tradition repeatedly depicted Mary as a prostitute and the mistaken association got stuck in the cultural consciousness.

 

 

In The Chosen, it is not entirely clear whether Mary Magdalene was engaging in prostitution before the events of Season 1, Episode 1. She is clearly sleeping with a man out of wedlock when the episode begins and they are sleeping together in "the Red Quarter" - a sleazy part of town.

 

 

What is the Red Quarter?

 

The Bible never mentions "the Red Quarter." In the modern vernacular, a "red light district" is a term that refers to an area of the city known for prostitution, strip clubs, and other immoral establishments. Because The Chosen seeks to be kid-friendly, it most likely uses the term "Red Quarter" in order to hint to older viewers that Mary is a prostitute without explicitly mentioning prostitution or sex.

 


 

Was Mary Magdalene raped?

 

In the Bible, there is no indication that Mary Magdalene was raped.

 

 

In The Chosen, we see a brief flashback during Season 1, Episode 1 that strongly implies that Mary was raped by a Roman soldier. The trauma of her rape is hinted at again in Season 2, Episode 5, and is the trigger that causes Mary to backslide.

 

 
 
 

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Game nights are a favorite rhythm of youth ministries and small groups across the world. As a former youth minister, I've always appreciated how games provide a fun but safe space for old friends and new acquaintances to deepen their relationships and have fun.

 

 

As a creative, however, I've always longed to see more games that reward imagination and ideas. While "hardcore" games tend to reward those who have the most knowledge of the game mechanics, casual games tend to reward those who have the most relational knowledge of the other players.

 

 

So what would it look like for a game to inspire creativity - even for first time players? My answer to that question is Make It. Have you ever dreamed up a clever life-hack or idea for an invention? Make It gamifies that experience. During each round, you'll respond to a project prompt by coming up with an original idea for invention, which you'll then pitch to your fellow players. After every player has shared, you'll vote on which idea is the best invention. You can see the game in action in a recent episode of The Bible Artist Podcast.

 

 

Instead of coming in a boxed set, Make It comes in the form of notebooks, which each contain everything needed for a single player. If you plan to play in a group, buy enough notebooks for each player. You can also do Make It on your own as a creative exercise. The notebook-based format allows Make It to sell for only $8.50/notebook (standard size) and $6.50/notebook (compact). For a group of 4, that's $34 (standard) or $26 (compact). I've tried to keep the price as low as possible to make the game affordable for youth groups, college ministries, and churches.

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¿Quién fue Lilith la primera esposa de Adán?
la primer esposa de Adán
?

 Posted by Jose Fernandez on Aug 02, 2024
Lilith, una figura misteriosa y fascinante, ha sido objeto de diversas interpretaciones a lo largo de la historia. Para comprender su papel, debemos explorar diferentes perspectivas.
 

Origen de Lilith

Aunque no se encuentra originalmente en la antigua Sumeria, sus raíces se extienden hasta allí. En sumerio, la palabra “Lil” significa “aire”, y “Lili” (femenino “Lilitu”) se refiere a espíritus. No obstante, Lilith no formaba parte del panteón sumerio.

En la tradición judeocristiana, Lilith es conocida como la primera esposa de Adán antes de Eva. Sin embargo, su historia es compleja y ha variado a lo largo del tiempo. La única mención a Lilith en la Biblia es Isaías 34: 14

"Los gatos salvajes se juntarán con hienas y un sátiro llamará al otro; también allí reposará Lilit y en él encontrará descanso." [1]

Imagen creada con Inteligencia Articifial (Leonardo AI) recreando la frase
"Los gatos salvajes se juntarán con hienas y un sátiro llamará al otro; también allí reposará Lilit y en él encontrará descanso.

 

La biblia no dice quien es Lilith ni su historia, aunque según el rabino Rashi es una demonio. [2].  Segun el folclore judío Lilit fue la primer esposa de Adán, expulsada del edén porque durante la cópula no quería estar debajo debido a que ella decía que habían sido creados iguales, de la tierra, negándose a ser sumisa. Interpretación de Lilit de John Collier: "Yahveh la expulsó del jardín de Edén y creó a otra, mas sumisa, Eva".

 
Destaquemos que Lilit, la primera mujer libre e independiente de la literatura, pasó a ser, según las mitologías escritas por hombres
madre de los demonios y de todas las cosas “repugnantes”. 
Lilith se rebeló contra Adán y Dios, huyó del Edén y se convirtió en un ser oscuro y demoníaco.
 
 
Lady Lilith,  óleo sobre lienzo de Dante Gabriel Rossetti 
En el marco del cuadro figura un verso de la obra Fausto de Goethe,
escrito con tinta por el propio Rossetti en la parte posterior del mismo:
 
"Cuidado con su pelo rubio, por el cual destaca
Todas las mujeres en la magia de sus cabellos,
Y cuando los enrosca alrededor del cuello de un joven
Ella nunca lo liberará de nuevo"
 
En otras tradiciones, Lilith es vista como una diosa de la noche, relacionada con la fertilidad y la sexualidad. Algunos la consideran una figura liberadora para las mujeres.


Leamos la historia de Lilith tal y como se menciona en el Midrash (un escrito judío):
Mientras Dios creó a Adán, que estaba solo, dijo: 'No es bueno que el hombre esté solo' (Génesis 2:18). También creó un mujer, de la tierra, como Él había creado a Adán mismo, y la llamó Lilith. Adán y Lilith inmediatamente comenzaron a pelear. Ella dijo: 'No me acostaré abajo', y él dijo: 'No me acostaré debajo de ti, pero sólo en la parte superior. Porque tú sólo eres apto para estar en la posición de abajo, mientras que yo debo ser el superior. Lilith respondió: "Somos iguales entre nosotros en la medida en que ambos fuimos creados de la tierra". Pero no se escucharon el uno al otro. Cuando Lilith vio esto, pronunció el Nombre Inefable y voló por los aires. Adán se paró en oración ante su Creador: "¡Soberano del universo!" él dijo, 'la mujer que me diste se ha escapado'. Inmediatamente, el Santo, bendito sea, envió a estos tres ángeles para traerla de regreso ". Dijo el Santo a Adán, 'Si ella acepta regresar, lo que está hecho es bueno. De lo contrario, debe permitir que cien de sus hijos mueran todos los días. Los ángeles dejaron a Dios y persiguieron a Lilith, a quien alcanzaron en medio del mar, en las poderosas aguas donde los egipcios estaban destinados a ahogarse. Le dijeron la palabra de Dios, pero ella no quiso volver. Los ángeles dijeron: "Te ahogaremos en el mar". "¡Déjame!" dijo. "Fui creada sólo para causar enfermedades a los niños. Si el niño es varón, tengo dominio sobre él durante ocho días después de su nacimiento, y si es mujer, durante veinte días". "Cuando los ángeles escucharon las palabras de Lilith, insistieron en que volviera. Pero ella les juró por el nombre del Dios vivo y eterno: 'Siempre que te vea a ti o tus nombres o tus formas en un amuleto, no tendré poder sobre ese infante'. También aceptó que murieran cien de sus hijos todos los días. En consecuencia, todos los días mueren cien demonios, y por la misma razón, escribimos los nombres de los ángeles en los amuletos de los niños pequeños. Cuando Lilith ve sus nombres, recuerda su juramento y el niño se recupera ".[3]
 
 
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Lilith

 
Lilith wrapped in a serpent
Lilith (1887) by John Collier

Lilith (/ˈlɪlɪθ/HebrewלִילִיתromanizedLīlīṯ), also spelled LilitLilitu, or Lilis, is a feminine figure in Mesopotamian and Jewish mythology, theorized to be the first wife of Adam[1] and a primordial she-demon. Lilith is cited as having been "banished"[2] from the Garden of Eden for not complying with and obeying Adam.[2]

The original Hebrew word from which the name Lilith is taken is in the Biblical Hebrew, in the Book of Isaiah, though Lilith herself is not mentioned in any biblical text.[3] In late antiquity in Mandaean and Jewish sources from 500 AD onward, Lilith appears in historiolas (incantations incorporating a short mythic story) in various concepts and localities[4] that give partial descriptions of her. She is mentioned in the Babylonian Talmud (Eruvin 100b, Niddah 24b, Shabbat 151b, Bava Batra 73a), in the Conflict of Adam and Eve with Satan as Adam's first wife, and in the Zohar § Leviticus 19a as "a hot fiery female who first cohabited with man".[5] Many rabbinic authorities, including Maimonides and Menachem Meiri, reject the existence of Lilith.[6]

The name Lilith stems from lilûlilîtu, and (w)ardat lilî). The Akkadian word lilû is related to the Hebrew word lilit appearing in Isaiah 34:14, which is thought to be a night bird by some modern scholars such as Judit M. Blair.[7] In Mesopotamian religion, found in the cuneiform texts of SumerAssyria, and Babylonialilîtu is a spirit or demon.[1][8][9] Many have also connected her to the Mesopotamian demon Lamashtu, who shares similar traits and a similar position in mythology to Lilith.[10][11][12]

Lilith continues to serve as source material in today's popular cultureWestern culture, literature, occultismfantasy, and horror.

History

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In some Jewish folklore, such as the Alphabet of Sirach (c. 700–1000 AD), Lilith appears as Adam's first wife, who was created at the same time and from the same clay as Adam.[a] The legend of Lilith developed extensively during the Middle Ages, in the tradition of Aggadah, the Zohar, and Jewish mysticism.[15] For example, in the 13th-century writings of Isaac ben Jacob ha-Cohen, Lilith left Adam after she refused to become subservient to him and then would not return to the Garden of Eden after she had coupled with the archangel Samael.[16]

Interpretations of Lilith found in later Jewish materials are plentiful, but little information has survived relating to the Sumerian, Assyrian and Babylonian views of this class of demons. Recent scholarship has disputed the relevance of two sources previously used to connect the Jewish lilith to an Akkadian lilītu – the Gilgamesh appendix and the Arslan Tash amulets[17] (see below for discussion of these two problematic sources).

In contrast, some scholars, such as Lowell K. Handy, hold the view that though Lilith derives from Mesopotamian demonology, evidence of the Hebrew Lilith being present in the sources frequently cited – the Sumerian Gilgamesh fragment and the Sumerian incantation from Arshlan-Tash being two – is scant, if present at all.[16]: 174

In Hebrew-language texts, the term lilith or lilit (translated as "night creatures", "night monster", "night hag", or "screech owl") first occurs in a list of animals in Isaiah 34.[18] The Isaiah 34:14 Lilith reference does not appear in most common Bible translations such as KJV and NIV. Commentators and interpreters often envision the figure of Lilith as a dangerous demon of the night, who is sexually wanton, and who steals babies in the darkness.[19] Currently there is no scholarly consensus, with some adhering to the animalistic interpretation, where as others claim 34:14 is referencing a literal demon or a category of demons falling under the specification of "lilith". Historically, certain prominent Jewish rabbis in Talmudic texts feared the likes of liliths, some to such an extent that they recommended men not sleep in a home alone, as any who do would be "seized by Lilith."[20] Jewish incantation bowls and amulets from Mesopotamia from the first to the eighth centuries identify Lilith as a female demon and provide the first visual depictions of her.[19] The said amulets were often symbolic divorce papers, warding off a given lilith that was thought to be haunting one's house or family.[21]

Etymology

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In the Akkadian language of Assyria and Babylonia, the terms lili and līlītu mean spirits. Some uses of līlītu are listed in the Assyrian Dictionary of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago (CAD, 1956, L.190), in Wolfram von Soden's Akkadisches Handwörterbuch (AHw, p. 553), and Reallexikon der Assyriologie (RLA, p. 47).[22]

The Sumerian female demons lili have no etymological relation to Akkadian lilu, "evening".[23]

Archibald Sayce (1882)[24][page needed] considered that the Hebrew and the earlier Akkadian names are derived from Proto-SemiticCharles Fossey (1902) has this literally translating to "female night being/demon", although cuneiform inscriptions from Mesopotamia exist where Līlīt and Līlītu refers to disease-bearing wind spirits.[25][26]

Mesopotamian mythology

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The spirit in the tree in the Gilgamesh cycle

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Samuel Noah Kramer (1932, published 1938)[27] translated ki-sikil-lil-la-ke as "Lilith" in Tablet XII of the Epic of Gilgamesh dated c. 600 BC. Tablet XII is not part of the Epic of Gilgamesh, but is a later Assyrian Akkadian translation of the latter part of the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh.[28] The ki-sikil-lil-la-ke is associated with a serpent and a zu bird.[b] In Gilgamesh, Enkidu, and the Netherworld, a huluppu tree grows in Inanna's garden in Uruk, whose wood she plans to use to build a new throne. After ten years of growth, she comes to harvest it and finds a serpent living at its base, a Zu bird raising young in its crown, and that a ki-sikil-lil-la-ke made a house in its trunk. Gilgamesh is said to have killed the snake, and then the zu bird flew away to the mountains with its young, while the ki-sikil-lil-la-ke fearfully destroys its house and runs for the forest.[29][30] Identification of the ki-sikil-lil-la-ke as Lilith is stated in the Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible (1999).[31] According to a new source[which?] from late antiquity, Lilith appears in a Mandaean magic story where she is considered to represent the branches of a tree with other demonic figures that form other parts of the tree, though this may also include multiple "Liliths".[32]

Suggested translations for the Tablet XII spirit in the tree include ki-sikil as "sacred place", lil as "spirit", and lil-la-ke as " water spirit",[33] but also simply "owl", given that the lil is building a home in the trunk of the tree.[34]

A connection between the Gilgamesh ki-sikil-lil-la-ke and the Jewish Lilith was rejected on textual grounds by Sergio Ribichini (1978).[35]


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