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General: GERMANY S SCHOLZ, FRANCE S MACRON VOW UNITY AS TRUMP RETURNS JANUARY 22 2025
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De: BARILOCHENSE6999  (Mensaje original) Enviado: 09/02/2025 16:29

Germany's Scholz, France's Macron vow unity as Trump returns

01/22/2025January 22, 2025 

German and French leaders Olaf Scholz and Emmanuel Macron are holding bilateral talks. Topics include the new Trump administration, war in Ukraine and the conflict in the Middle East.

 
https://p.dw.com/p/4pSDK
 
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz meets with French President Emmanuel Macron at the Elysee Palace on January 22, 2025 Although Scholz and Macron have sometimes been seen as having a fraught relationship, the two leaders are sticking together to counter a more demanding US administration under Donald TrumpImage: Mohammed Badra/AFP 

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Wednesday visited Paris to meet with French President Emmanuel Macron just days after US President Donald Trump’s inauguration.

The meeting marks the anniversary of the 1963 Elysee Treaty signed between the countries' respective post-World War II leaders, Konrad Adenauer and Charles de Gaulle.

Scholz: Trump will be a 'challenge'

During a joint news conference at the Elysee Palace, the two leaders pledged to act towards a "strong" Europe. 

Scholz said Trump "will be, and so much is already clear, a challenge."

Macron hosts Scholz at the Elysee Palace on January 22, 2025 Macron hosts Scholz at the Elysee Palace on January 22, 2025
Scholz and Macron are bracing themselves for a possible trade war with the US under Donald Trump Image: Mohammed Badra/AFP

"Europe will not cower and hide, but instead be a constructive and assertive partner," Scholz said, while adding this position will be "the basis for good cooperation with the new American president."

Macron said "it is necessary more than ever for Europeans and for our two countries to play their role of consolidating a united, strong and sovereign Europe." 

With Trump vowing tariffs on many US trade partners, the German and French leaders noted the steel, car and chemicals industries as important for the European economy. 

The French president said Wednesday that Europe should not only ramp up defense spending "but must also develop its own industrial base, its own capacities, its own industry." 

Trump: The EU is 'very, very bad to us'

A day prior, Trump told journalists that the "European Union is very, very bad to us," while threatening tariffs to get "fairness" from the bloc.  

Trump's trade threats could compel reform, EU leaders say

 
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Scholz and Macron have previously discussed the possible effects of a Trump administration returning to the White House and what this would mean for Europe.

In November, Macron had said they would work for a "more united, stronger, more sovereign Europe" and that this would be done in "cooperation with the US."

In addition to the Trump administration and trade, other topics of discussion between Macron and Scholz on Wednesday include Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the Middle East conflict.   

https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-scholz-frances-macron-vow-unity-as-trump-returns/a-71368530


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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 09/02/2025 16:33

Trump presidency ‘challenge’ calls for ‘strong’ Europe, say Macron and Scholz

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French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz called for a strong and united Europe after a meeting in Paris on Wednesday to try to consolidate policies as US President Donald Trump threatened Europe with new tariffs, saying the EU "is very, very bad to us".  

French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz shake hands in Berlin on October 2, 2024.French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz shake hands in Berlin on October 2, 2024. © Ludovic Marin, AFP

French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz sought to project unity at a meeting in Paris on Wednesday, as Europe struggles to respond with one voice to threats of tariffs from U.S. President Donald Trump.

Trump, who has also threatened Canada, Mexico and China with heavy duties, said on Tuesday Europe had troubling trade surpluses with the United States and was "in for tariffs".

In statements to reporters before their working lunch at the Elysee Palace, both Macron and Scholz insisted that Europe was strong and the Franco-German tandem solid, while expecting difficulties.

"President Trump will, that much is already clear, be a challenge," Scholz said. "Our position is clear. Europe is a large economic area with around 450 million citizens. We are strong. We stand together. Europe will not duck and hide."

Macron has long pushed for Europe to be more self-reliant.

"After the inauguration of a new administration in the United States, it is necessary more than ever for Europeans and for our two countries to play their role of consolidating a united, strong and sovereign Europe," he said.

The two leaders mentioned the steel, car and chemicals sectors -- possible targets for U.S. tariffs -- as crucial for the European economy.

Transactional relations with Trump

Some business leaders and analysts have said Trump's first term offers evidence that he often publicly launches threats of tariffs and other measures to use as leverage, without ultimately carrying them out.

But others fear he could be emboldened by a strong popular mandate and more support in both houses of Congress.

"The European Union is very, very bad to us," Trump told reporters on Tuesday. "So they're going to be in for tariffs. It's the only way ... you're going to get fairness."

READ MORERelations with Trump are 'transactional', France says, as Trump threatens EU tariffs

 

Many EU countries have export-oriented economies. Already facing higher energy costs because of the war in Ukraine and a slowdown in trade with China, they do not relish the idea of a new front with the U.S.

"We have entered a new phase of negotiations with the U.S.," French government spokeswoman Sophie Primas told reporters before the meeting. "Relations with President Trump are transactional. We must be as determined as the U.S., we must show our strength."

Both Macron -- who lost snap elections last year and has had four prime ministers in 2024 alone -- and Scholz, who is trailing his conservative rival in surveys before the German election next month, are weakened politically at home.

The pair have differed on many issues in recent years, slowing down decision-making in the EU and leaving a leadership void that EU institutions have struggled to fill.

"Franco-German relations must warm up very strongly and very quickly," said a French government source, speaking on condition of anonymity. "Europe won't be relaunched without a strong Franco-German couple."

But while leading German politicians have been pushing for a free trade agreement between Europe and the U.S., France says the EU must reject economic coercion and apply counter-tariffs if attacked.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250122-macron-and-scholz-to-meet-in-paris-as-trump-threatens-europe-tariffs

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 13/02/2025 20:51

 

 

1. Impacto del plan Stargate de Trump. La inversión de 500.000 millones de dólares en infraestructura de IA por parte de EE.UU. ciertamente dejó a Europa definitivamente fuera de juego. El problema de Europa es más estructural . El problema de Europa es que tenemos magníficas universidades y talento e incluso fondos para ellas (pero su i+D se aprovecha más en US, Israel  o China), lo que no tenemos son empresas, y las pocas que hay tienen unos enormes problemas para escalar. En Europa el énfasis en la regulación ha provocado una cultura del “riesgo”, no de las oportunidades.

2. Reacción ante el avance de DeepSeek. La startup china logró desarrollar un chatbot avanzado a una fracción del costo de competidores como OpenAI, lo que reavivó la esperanza de que la carrera de la IA no dependa solo de la inversión masiva.

Deepseek-R1 es un modelo técnicamente relevante, pero su credibilidad está en entredicho. Su futuro fuera de China es incierto, y podría quedar relegado al mercado interno, como pasó con Ali Cloud. Lo que sí va a tener cada vez más relevancia son los modelos destilados con un uso específico.

3. Cambio en la perspectiva de Macron. La combinación de estos dos eventos (Stargate y DeepSeek) ha llevado a Macron a replantear la estrategia europea de IA, pasando de una visión reguladora e inclusiva a una más competitiva y enfocada en soberanía tecnológica.

4. Riesgo de irrelevancia de la Cumbre de IA de París. Inicialmente concebida para promover una IA sostenible e inclusiva, la cumbre ahora busca reforzar la posición de Europa en la industria.

5. Nueva estrategia de “preferencia europea”. Macron impulsa incentivos como subsidios, acceso a datos preferenciales y mayor financiación para fomentar la compra de productos europeos de IA.

6. Críticas a la estrategia proteccionista. Inversores tecnológicos advierten que priorizar proveedores locales en lugar de los mejores del mercado ha llevado al fracaso de iniciativas europeas previas, como Qwant o Gaia-X. Ciertamente si no hay plan para especialización, internacionalización y escalado en el mercado  el proteccionismo no resolverá nada. 

7. Importancia estratégica de la IA para Europa. Macron ve la IA como una cuestión de civilización y supervivencia cultural, argumentando que la tecnología debe reflejar valores europeos en lugar de estar dominada por visiones estadounidenses o chinas.

8  Posible pausa en la regulación de IA en la UE. En respuesta a las preocupaciones sobre el impacto negativo de la Ley de IA, se especula que Macron podría pedir una revisión o ralentización de la regulación.

9. Mistral vs DeepSeek. Mientras algunos ven el avance de DeepSeek como una validación del modelo de IA abierta y accesible, otros temen que haya dejado a Mistral fuera de la competencia. Estamos en una tormenta perfecta en el ámbito de los modelos LLM. Cada día aparece una propuesta más eficiente, más barata etc. Ciertamente,  Europa debería centrarse en la IA especializada, apostando por nichos específicos donde pueda ser competitiva. Si quiere dar un salto a largo, Yann LeCun ha señalado la dirección.

https://observatorio-ia.com/algunos-comentarios-sobre-the-15-days-that-upended-macrons-vision-for-european-ai


 
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