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General: NADIE CONTESTA a los temas cristianos.
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De: Josediego (Mensaje original) |
Enviado: 04/02/2024 20:32 |
NADIE CONTESTA a los temas cristianos.
Que es lo que pasa????.
Todos los foristas se disipan en cuentos de magia, filosofías raras, y elucubraciones mentales que nada edifican...¿ Pero donde están los verdaderos cristianos que nos recuerden las enseñanzas del Evangelio?.
Jesucristo nos dijo: "Id por todo el mundo y
predicad el
evangelio a toda criatura.
El que creyere y fuere bautizado, será salvo; mas el que no creyere,
será condenado". (Marcos 16:15-16).
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PASA QUE HAY QUE BAJAR EL EGO Y EMPEZAR DE NUEVO.
ESO ES LO DIFICIL AMIGO.
CON TODO RESPETO |
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ESO ES LO QUE DECIR JESUCRISTO AMIGO, HAY QUE VOLVER A NACER.
ES LA UNICA FORMA DE SALIR DE TANTO RELATO BANANERO
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Post by shipstamps » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:27 pm
 Not much is know about the caravel, where and when built unknown. Tonnage 200 ton, dim. 85 x 25 x 14ft. (draught) Four masts, fore and main mast square rigged, mizzen and Bonaventura mast lateen rigged. She was the flagship of Don Pedro de Mendoza (1487-1537) expedition to the River Plata. Mendoza held a post in the court of Charles V, when he in 1534 made an offer to Emperor Charles V to make an expedition on his own account for the discovery and conquest of Paraguay and the countries on the Rio La Plata. 24 August 1534 Mendoza on board the MAGDALENA and 13 other vessels, with 3000 men set sail from San Lucar, Spain. Receive from the Emperor before sailing 2.000 ducats, with the condition, when he transported to the new founded colonies 1000 colonists and 100 horses, build a road to the Pacific Ocean, erect three forts within two years he would receive 2.000 ducats more. Also he had to take 8 monks, a physician, a surgeon, and an apothecary, but he was forbidden to introduce a lawyer in the colony. He was to have half the treasure of the chiefs killed and nine-tenths of the ransom. Mendoza was made before sailing military governor of all the territory between the Rio de la Plata and the Strait of Magellan. The office of the Governor was also made hereditary. Off the coast of Brazil the fleet was scattered in a heavy storm, and Medoza lieutenant Osario, was assassinated, according to some authorities by the orders of Mendoza himself because of suspected disloyalty. 1535 Mendoza sailed up the Rio de la Plata, and founded Buenos Aires on 02 February 1536. He erected two forts there to defend the place. Pestilence broke out and the natives became unfriendly after ill treatment by the Spaniards. His brother Don Diego led a force against the hostile tribes, but was killed with three-fourths of his men. A general conspiracy of the natives was formed, and Buenos Aires was captured and burned by the natives. Mendoza retired to the forth Sanctus-Spiritus, from where he dispatched Juan de Ayolas to explore the upper part of the river. Another brother, Gonzalo arrived with reinforcements and founded the city of Ascención in Paraguay in 1536. Mendoza, disappointed and with a broken health, embarked on board the MAGDALENA for Spain in 1537, leaving Juan de Ayolas in charge. During the long voyage to Spain he died maniac on board the MAGDALENA on 23 June 1537. The fate of the MAGDALENA is not known. Argentine 1979 400p + 400p sg 1646 Source: mostly copied from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_de_Mendoza http://famousamericans.net/pedrodemendoza
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Post by shipstamps » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:27 pm
 Not much is know about the caravel, where and when built unknown. Tonnage 200 ton, dim. 85 x 25 x 14ft. (draught) Four masts, fore and main mast square rigged, mizzen and Bonaventura mast lateen rigged. She was the flagship of Don Pedro de Mendoza (1487-1537) expedition to the River Plata. Mendoza held a post in the court of Charles V, when he in 1534 made an offer to Emperor Charles V to make an expedition on his own account for the discovery and conquest of Paraguay and the countries on the Rio La Plata. 24 August 1534 Mendoza on board the MAGDALENA and 13 other vessels, with 3000 men set sail from San Lucar, Spain. Receive from the Emperor before sailing 2.000 ducats, with the condition, when he transported to the new founded colonies 1000 colonists and 100 horses, build a road to the Pacific Ocean, erect three forts within two years he would receive 2.000 ducats more. Also he had to take 8 monks, a physician, a surgeon, and an apothecary, but he was forbidden to introduce a lawyer in the colony. He was to have half the treasure of the chiefs killed and nine-tenths of the ransom. Mendoza was made before sailing military governor of all the territory between the Rio de la Plata and the Strait of Magellan. The office of the Governor was also made hereditary. Off the coast of Brazil the fleet was scattered in a heavy storm, and Medoza lieutenant Osario, was assassinated, according to some authorities by the orders of Mendoza himself because of suspected disloyalty. 1535 Mendoza sailed up the Rio de la Plata, and founded Buenos Aires on 02 February 1536. He erected two forts there to defend the place. Pestilence broke out and the natives became unfriendly after ill treatment by the Spaniards. His brother Don Diego led a force against the hostile tribes, but was killed with three-fourths of his men. A general conspiracy of the natives was formed, and Buenos Aires was captured and burned by the natives. Mendoza retired to the forth Sanctus-Spiritus, from where he dispatched Juan de Ayolas to explore the upper part of the river. Another brother, Gonzalo arrived with reinforcements and founded the city of Ascención in Paraguay in 1536. Mendoza, disappointed and with a broken health, embarked on board the MAGDALENA for Spain in 1537, leaving Juan de Ayolas in charge. During the long voyage to Spain he died maniac on board the MAGDALENA on 23 June 1537. The fate of the MAGDALENA is not known. Argentine 1979 400p + 400p sg 1646 Source: mostly copied from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_de_Mendoza http://famousamericans.net/pedrodemendoza
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ROYAL MAIL STEAM PACKET COMPANY and ROYAL MAIL LINE lost a number of ships in their long history. One of the last was the 17,547 GT turbine steamship rms MAGDALENA, which was launched in 1948, grounded and sank off Brazil on her maiden voyage in 1949.
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Wreck of the RMS Magdalena or Titanic in Rio De Janeiro.
A ship built in the same shipyard where the Titanic was born and which ironically ended on its maiden voyage as well.
Historic
One of the prides of the British shipping company Royal Mail Steam Packet Company. The Magdalena, the company's third ship with that name, took two years to build, due to a lack of materials in the post-war period. It was launched on May 11, 1948 by the Harland and Wolff shipyard in Ireland and immediately placed for passenger and cargo line service to Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina.
During his inaugural voyage in April 1949, he highlighted the ita come from Santos, with a scheduled stopover in Costa Rio de Janeiro.
January During the early morning hours of the 25th, he was already approaching the city, having the beach of Barra da Tijuca through the bombardment, when at 4:30 am, apparently due to a navigation error by one of the ship's officers, it crashed on the slab of the Islands Tijucas, where he was imprisoned despite attempts to desercathe Ochoque damaged the bow and opened a large hole in pore number 3.
Issued the S.O.S. emergency, the passengers were taken to the lifeboats as the coast is very close, but they did not abandon the ship, which remained stable attached to slab. Several Navy and private ships went to the site to help the vessel, among them: the submarine fighter Guaporé, Guaiba.
Beberibe, the tugs Triunfo, Lieutenant Cláudio and Commander Dorat, in addition to the Saturno and the national freighter Goiazlóide, the first to arrive at the site. It was through some of these ships that passengers were eventually disembarked.
Soon, the ship began to be unloaded, transferring part of its cargo to auxiliary ships, barges and tugs. With the weight alleviated and the following day's high tide, the ship re-floated, starting the slow tow by Triunfo and Comandante Dorat, into the interior of Guanabara Bay.
The entrance to Guanabara Bay is narrow and divided in half by the Laje fortress, where the currents are strong and the surface agitated by the funnel of water that enters and leaves. For it was exactly when crossing the bar, probably forced by the weight of the water that invaded cellar number 3 and the thick sea, that the Magdalena left between the bridge and the striking yellow chimney, which characterized the company. The images are impressive, looking like the ship was cut with a knife.
According to some witnesses, the boilers exploded; which doesn't seem likely, as they were muffled in the first moments of the accident, but the crash of the fracture was enormous, which must have confused the stunned witnesses. Bow and amidship quickly submerged, leaving a large smear of floating objects.
Champagne bottles, among others, were collected by the city's oarsmen for several days after the shipwreck. The stern, which continued to float and was immediately released by the tugs, which tug. they also feared being pulled to the bottom. On board were only the captain, a crew member and the chief practical of Rio de Janeiro, who were quickly rescued by a tug.
However, surprising everyone, half the ship did not sink, drifting until it ran aground in the Imbuí Beach (Niterói) in front of the bow sinking site. Captain Douglas Lee and his first immediately were blamed for the accident by the court of law and had their records suspended for two and one year respectively.
In the days after the accident, the opening left in the rear half of the ship was sealed with steel plates and the entire segment was towed to a shipyard in Rio de Janeiro, where it was scrapped. The ship's machines were sold and, for many years, served as a unit thermoelectric, generating electricity for the city of Manaus. Only having been definitively retired at the beginning of 2000. Some sources claim that windows and other devices in the cockpit were used to decorate the Jurujuba late Clube salon in Niterói.
Today, there are only a few pieces left spread over an area of sand and rock bottom, the largest parts were removed or blown up, and according to DHN (Diretoria de Hidrografia e Navegação da Marinha do Brasil), no more than wreckage is found. one meter from the bottom. So the location of the wreckage is not very easy.
Diving in the place is extremely difficult. Firstly, because it is the passage of large vessels and therefore, anchorage is prohibited. The place is a big narrowing at the entrance of the bar, so, with the movement of the tides, the currents in the place are very strong. To make matters worse, the color of the water in Guanabara Bay, which although at the bottom is not so dark, due to the agitation and mixing, is close to zero.
Source text : Naufrágios do Brasil
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COMO ES EXPLICA LA INTERCONEXION AMIGO CON TODO RESPETO?
QUIERO DATOS, NO SU RELATO BANANERO CON TODO RESPETO |
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AMIGO, CON TODO RESPETO, QUIERO DATOS NO SU RELATO BANANERO.
TANTO LE CUESTA BAJAR SU EGO?
QUIERO DATOS |
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EL DRAMA DE USTEDES ES QUE HOY EXISTE INTERNET.
¿COMO HACE USTED PARA CENSURAR TODA ESTA INFORMACION? |
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LA ENFERMEDAD DE BABILONIA ES EL QUERER VIVIR CON EL DINERO DE OTRO, POR ESO TANTO RELATO Y NO HAY DATOS AMIGO CON TODO RESPETO. |
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LA PREGUNTA DEL MILLON: ES INSENSATEZ, BAJO NIVEL INTELECTUAL, LAVADO DE CEREBRO, FARISEISMO, ETC?
ESPERO SU RESPUESTA |
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TODOS LOS CAMINOS CONDUCEN A ROMA....EL DATO MATA EL RELATO AMIGO.....CON TODO RESPETO... |
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Altarpiece of Mary Magdalene (detail)
(Altarpiece of Mary Magdalene, detail)
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