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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 24/02/2025 19:31

    First, NYC/Long Island can be associated with 'knowledge' through the symbolisms of 'apple' ("Big Apple"), 'rose' (state flower),  'fire' (Statue of Liberty, its connection to Paris/'torch'), etc. and as we've seen in foregoing sections it's part of the 'ark' complex via VI-97.  Furthermore from the 'apple' connection follows the notion of the 'serpent'.  Now, all those 'knowledge'/Sirius connections of NYC can be transferred to Mars because, as illustrated in 'Babylon Matrix', NYC is also related to Mars, especially the Cydonia region with all the potentially artificial structures.  Mars being red and circular is associatable with the 'apple', the red and round 'Big Apple' (NYC).  Now, some might argue that the fruit Eve ate was not necessarily an 'apple', but we generally thought of it as an apple today and that has to count in symbolism.  But there is a much more precise connection -  the latitudes of NYC and Cydonia are exactly the same, 40.5~41N.

    The events closely associated earlier with X-72 and more or less with the ark, the two random shootings in a library and school ('Resonance' #7 and 8), appear to back up the Mars-Sirius connection also.  Those two similar events, only five days apart, occurred one on the Cydonian latitude and the other on the Sirius 'angle' latitude.  The Mormon library shooting took place at ~40.5N, and the Colorado school shooting at ~39.5N.  The name 'Salt Lake City', where the library shooting occurred, may be relevant also since mythologically the 'salt water' is of female - and Sirius is filled with female associations ('goddess', 'star of Women', etc.).

    Moreover, Temple mentions in his book that "when making rhetorical allusion to the Dog Days, the Latins would often speak of Sirius being red at the time..."  Now, this is quite significant for not only is Sirius described as 'red' like Mars, but the "Dog Days" would refer to a period in or around July - the exact time-frame indicated by Quatrain X-72.

    The Sirius-correlated Argo also turns out to be very relevant here.  Because the main mission of Jason, the leader of the Argonauts who has been identified as the "appeasing King"/"King of terror" of X-72 earlier, was to obtain the 'golden fleece', and in Temple's words, "Aries was definitely identified with the golden fleece".  In case you don't know, Aries is the Greek Mars.  Aries is also a sign of the zodiac, "ruled" by Mars, and it is classified as a 'fire sign' - correlating with the fire-knowledge symbolism.  I should also point out that Mars is called 'fire star' in Japanese.

    Moreover, Sirius/Isis' son Horus provides intriguing correlations.  First, the Great Sphinx associated earlier with 'ark' was called by Egyptians "Horus of Horizon" which also happens to be a name given to Mars.  And the word 'Cairo', where the Sphinx is (actually slightly west of Cairo), is derived from 'Mars'.  Mars was also called 'Horus the Red'.  And the word 'Heru' (Egyptian name for Horus) also has the meaning of 'face' - seemingly a reference to the infamous 'Face on Mars' at Cydonia! (So, as you can see, the Mars-Horus connection is quite obvious.)  Next, Sirius/ark comes into the web of associations, as the Argo also relates to Horus (thus to Mars too) as the Greek derivation of Horus, 'Circe', plays a prominent role in the story of Argo.  Also, as Temple hypothesizes, the names of the original captain of Argo, Herakles, and his protectress Hera may be derived from 'Heru' - the Egyptian name for Horus.  Furthermore, we're told that Herakles/Hera is related to the word 'Seirios' from which we have the word 'Sirius' - strengthening the Mars-ark-Sirius connection.  But as if it wasn't enough, Temple goes on to point out that 'Seirios' also has the meaning of 'fiery/scorching', that can easily be a reference to Mars. 

    And finally, Mars and Sirius are linked by the 'tetrahedral angle' of 19.5 degrees.  '19.5 degrees' is one of the most significant notions derived from the supposed artificial structures of Cydonia that suggests their artificiality, according to investigators like Richard Hoagland ('The Monuments of Mars').  It is viewed as a definite 'signal in the noise' - some kind of a 'message' left there by some intelligence.  This number, '19.5', is called t, the 'tetrahedral constant', because of its significance in tetrahedral geometry (a tetrahedron is a pyramid shape composed of four equilateral triangular sides):  the apexes of a tetrahedron when placed within a circumscribing sphere, one of the tetrahedron's apexes touching the south (or north) pole, the other three apexes touch the surface of the sphere at 19.5 degrees north latitude.  So it is interesting that the Egyptian symbol for Sirius is a triangle which can be viewed as a 2-dimensional representation of a tetrahedron. 

     

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 Apr 15: Well, yes, Italy is obviously a 'big-foot'...

...hence the recent deep impact (killer quake) there, confirming our suspicion for the Orange/MLK window.

In that strikingly boot-shaped peninsula with its famous resident the 'Monkey King' - Pope aka Primate of Rome - was a direct continuation of our 'Bigfoot' super theme (closely tracked since last summer) and you could see it coming (as we did as early as December on STRUG) based on the multicontextual framework of this period which I'll go into in my upcoming full-length article.

A little more on MLK (continuing from previous posts)...

'MLK' can linguistically denote 'Moloch', closely associated with human/child sacrifice as well as 'king' (as in Martin Luther King, 'Orange King', etc.) which is the meaning of 'Moloch', written mlk (MLK) in Hebrew. Something to keep in mind as we go into May.

The ' big picture' to be revealed soon...

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 Apr 25: It was Venus in the mirror. 'Amor' (son of Venus) meaning 'love' is 'Roma' (Rome) spelt backwards. Hence the planet Venus mirrored (reversed) across the Sun from one Bigfoot day to another...

The Kentucky Derby coming up should be interesting BTW, if a little cryptic.

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 21/04/2025 18:03
There were more clues, of course, including:
  • Bruno Mars and Red Hot Chili Peppers doing the halftime show
  • One of the teams was the Denver Broncos from "Colorado" which means "color red"
  • Though technically in New Jersey, the Super Bowl was essentially in New York City (MetLife Stadium), or the "Big Apple"... as in the Golden Apple (MetLife Stadium is the home of both the New York Giants and New York Jets); "Golden Apple" is synonymous with "Cydonia"
  • NYC/MetLife Stadium is at latitude ~40.8°Nexactly the same latitude as the "Monuments"of Cydonia on Mars including the "Face on Mars"

The "Golden Apple" allusion represents a time arrow pointing ahead to the "Golden Apple Alignment" in mid October right before Martian (almost) Deep Impact day.


[NOTE: Orange/Golden Apple Alignments are typically (but not always) time markers for major "earth changes" events such as earthquakes, as well as papal events, etc. And it's been my observation after nearly a decade of closely tracking these alignments that when Earth joins an Orange Alignment, the energy is amplified. That's what we'll have with the upcoming Orange/Golden Apple Alignment (mid Oct 2014).]
The Cydonia/Face on Mars allusion is even more revealing... starting with the fact that the Face can transform into a (reverse) sphinx, with a lion head and a human (pregnant) body:

   Face_on_Mars-decoding.gif (228446 bytes)



In the sky, the Great Sphinx has a counterpart in the form of the constellation Leo. And there was a remarkable "omen" there earlier this year, right on the vernal/March equinox (March 20)... or the exact day the gaze of the Great Sphinx aligned with sunrise.
https://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/martian-deepimpact.html

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De: BARILOCHENSE6999 Enviado: 23/04/2025 15:54
2) December 21, 2012: The "end" of the Mayan calendar

Together and via the golden ratio they pinpoint the future window July 31-August 2, 2017:


Note: The Mayan calendar "end date" has a good track record with this type of time codes especially with the golden ratio. Why I keep using them.

Lucifer Alignment

This one is a heliocentric alignment involving Venus, the Sun and Jupiter (i.e. either Sun-Venus-Jupiter or Venus-Sun-Jupiter). Until a few years ago what I call the "Orange/Golden Apple Alignment" (Venus-Sun-Mercury) had the same level of energy and consistency. Now the torch has been passed to the "Lucifer Alignment". Its track record speaks for itself:
  • 4/25/2015 Sun-Ven-Jup [4/25 Nepal mega quake]
  • 8/22/2015 Ven-Sun-Jup [8/20-25 stock market turmoil]
  • 12/17/2015 Sun-Ven-Jup [12/18 Dow plunges 367 points]
  • 4/14/2016 Ven-Sun-Jup [4/14-16 Japan quakes, 4/16 Ecuador mega quake]
  • 8/9/2016 Sun-Ven-Jup (along equinox axis) [Russia cyber warfare, Trump campaign turmoil, Rio Olympics]
  • 12/6/2016 Ven-Sun-Jup [12/6 Indonesia quake , 12/8 quake off California, 12/8 Solomon Islands quake/tsunami, 12/8 John Glenn dead]
  • 4/2/2017 Sun-Ven-Jup [4/2-3 St. Petersburg, Russia metro explosion 11 dead; nuclear signals]
  • 7/30/2017 Ven-Sun-Jup
Roughly every 4 month it's been wrecking havoc in the world like clockwork, not skipping one beat. Let's take a closer look...

~April 25, 2015 (Sun-Venus-Jupiter)

https://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/deepimpact-shockwave.html
2) December 21, 2012: The "end" of the Mayan calendar
 
 

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Hill and Main Street signage in 1985.

Biff and gang chase 1955

Second Street signage in 1955.

"He [Doc] sighed. That was one of the problems with time traveling. A couple of the roads he had expected to take [by bicycle] to get here [Mason Street] hadn't been built yet."
—From Back to the Future Part II by Craig Shaw Gardner (quote, page 159)

Hill ValleyCalifornia, is depicted in the Back to the Future trilogy in great detail. Not only are street addresses mentioned in the dialogue, but maps and a 1955 telephone directory page are shown as well. Two major state highways converge near Courthouse Square, where U.S. Route 395, running north-south along Main Street intersects with U.S. Route 8, which runs east-west along Second Street and parallel to Hill Street.

The origin of the street numbering system is near the Hill Valley Railroad Station.[1]

In relation to the clock tower, the Western Auto store and the Bank of America are to the north on Second Street. The McFly farm in 1885, and the Pohatchee Drive-In Theatre in 1955, appear to be located north of Hill Valley, as Marty McFly walks down the railroad tracks from the north, before reaching Hill Valley Railroad Station.

The Town Theater is to the east of the clock tower, on a street whose name is not shown (although it was referred to in the first draft as Monroe Avenue)[2]. The street, however, is identified as Hubbard Avenue in an ad for Statler Studebaker.[3] After passing through the square in 1985, Marty continues east to get to Hill Valley High School. With Jennifer Parker, he walks back from the east side after the Battle of the Bands.

The Essex Theater is to the south of the clock tower, on the 400 block of Hill Street. When Marty rides on his skateboard from Doc's garage in 1985, he approaches from the south. In walking from 2 mile marker at the future site of Lyon Estates in 1955, he also approaches town from the south (in 2015, Doc flies from Lyon Estates from the west side on an east-west skyway). When Marty returns to 1985, he runs south toward the Lone Pine Mall.

Lou's Cafe and the Texaco service station are to the west of the clock tower, on the 100 block of Main Street. Marty travels west as he runs after George in 1955. When he arrives in town in 1885, he comes from the west side, where the railroad station is located a few blocks away from the square.

North-south streets

Mason Street, where Biff Tannen lived in 1955, and Sycamore Street, where George McFly and Lorraine Baines both had houses, were on a north-south line. Streets following a north-south route are Main StreetNorth Avenue, North Salt Lake Avenue, South State Street, and Temple Street. In addition, Maple Street and Riverside Drive (later John F. Kennedy Drive) are described as being "on the east end of town" by Sam Baines, with the latter being a major north-south thoroughfare by 1985. The Central Pacific Railroad tracks also ran through town north to south.

East-west streets

The numbered streets, ranging from "East 2nd Street" as far as "43rd Street", follow an east-west direction. Among the addresses seen in the phone book are "214 E. 2nd", "230 E. 3rd", "1438 W. 4th", "281 West 23rd", "2407 East 33rd" and "604 East 39th". Parallel streets running east to west are Hill StreetSandy Street, and West DriveCherry Street intersected with Main Street.

Other throughfares

Named streets and roads

Numbered streets

  • 1st Street or Main Street
  • 2nd Street or Second Street
  • 3rd Street or Hill Street
  • 4th Street
  • 5th Street
  • 6th Street
  • 7th Street
  • 8th Street
  • 9th Street
  • 10th Street
  • 11th Street
  • 12th Street
  • 13th Street
  • 14th Street
  • 15th Street
  • 16th Street
  • 17th Street
  • 18th Street
  • 19th Street
  • 20th Street
  • 21st Street
  • 22nd Street
  • 23rd Street
  • 24th Street
  • 25th Street
  • 26th Street
  • 27th Street
  • 28th Street
  • 29th Street
  • 30th Street
  • 31st Street
  • 32nd Street
  • 33rd Street
  • 34th Street
  • 35th Street
  • 36th Street
  • 37th Street
  • 38th Street
  • 39th Street
  • 40th Street
  • 41st Street
  • 42nd Street
  • 43rd Street (Highest number in 1955 phone directory)

Avenues

Highways

Other roads

  • N 200 W Sandy and W 200 S Sandy
  • S 315 E
  • E 325 S
  • S 435 E Centerville
  • S 1250 W
  • S 2300 E
  • S 2850 E
  • E 2910 S
  • E 3205 S
  • E 3350 S
  • W 3800 S
  • W 4500 S
  • W 5570 S Kearns
  • E 7760 S

Behind the scenes

Upon closer inspection, it appears that Hill Valley's phone book was pulled from or based heavily on Salt Lake City, Utah. See SandyKearnsEmigration CanyonCenterville, and Riverton, all real suburbs or locations of Salt Lake City. Streets with names like Salt Lake Street and Wasatch Street also reference features in this part of the country.

https://backtothefuture.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Hill_Valley_streets

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"Ladies and gentlemen, as mayor of Hill Valley, it gives me great pleasure to dedicate this clock to the people of Hill County. May it stand for all time!"
—Mayor Hubert, September 5, 1885

Marty looks up at the courthouse clock in 1955.

The Hill Valley Courthouse and Clock Tower, also known as the Hill County Courthouse was a structure in Courthouse Square in Hill ValleyCalifornia.

 
 
 
 
 
 
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Hill Valley Courthouse

The Hill Valley Courthouse and clock tower were of a common construction and architectural style seen across the United States in the 1800s and 1900s. It was composed of red brick, concrete, and white trim. Two black cougar statues flanked the clock. The clock dial used "IV" for the number four, instead of "IIII" which is usually found on clocks with Roman numerals (except for Big Ben in London). On each quarter hour, the clock would chime.

History

The courthouse underwent several changes over the course of its 130-year history. It was first constructed in 1885. On September 3, 1885, it almost experienced its first hanging by Buford Tannen before Dr. Emmett Brown intervened. A ceremony held during the September 5th Hill Valley Festival started the clock at 8:00 pm. It would be completed the following year alongside the Shonash Ravine Bridge project.

From the 1880s until at least the 1950s, the building was the county courthouse with a lush lawn with walking paths that led from the building to the corners of the block.

The courthouse was used as a shelter during the San Francisco Earthquake during 1906.[1]

Up until some point in 1929, there was a ladder leading up to the top of the Courthouse, but it was removed due to some jumping incidents.[2]

In 1931 when Emmett was 17 he worked at the courthouse as a junior clerk with his father as the judge at the time. Also before Marty McFly went back to June 13, 1931 to find him while he was in Edna Strickland's apartment he sees a picture of him dead on the steps of the courthouse in a newspaper (while looking for the date that he was stuck in back in the past).

On August 25, 1931, Einstein was stranded on the roof of the Courthouse after riding Emmett's rocket-powered car. He was saved by Doc shortly after.

On October 12, 1931, Emmett was sulking at the top of the Courthouse. After a lightning strike, he got tangled on a rope tied to the statue, only to be saved by Marty. On the night after, Marty would run into Arthur McFly and Trixie Trotter before leaving 1931.

Shortly after discovering Doc's grave in 1955, the duo head to a library containing historical documents which by a large establishing shot, holds a large resemblance to the inside of the courthouse [Back to the Future 3, 15 minutes and 15 seconds in]. The space is fronted by three stories of windows similar to the placement, shape, and style of the windows on the façade of the courthouse. The marble floored atrium is flanked by two wood trimmed stairwells leading to halls on either side. The library sits in the middle. If this is indeed the courthouse, it is one of two times the main interior is shown in the movies [Back to the Future 2, 20 minutes and 58 seconds in].

The clock tower was struck by lightning during an electrical storm on November 121955. This fused the clock's internal mechanism and had stopped the clock at 10:04 pm permanently. Despite efforts trying to repair or replace the damaged clockwork, the Hill Valley Preservation Society kept it in this condition as part of the town's history and heritage. Though the courthouse's lightning rod could provide sufficient electrical grounding to absorb lightning strikes, it had completely severed. Originally, the tower was simply struck by lightning and the clock rendered useless, but after Marty visited 1955, a experiment involving hooking a cable up to the antenna was created by Doc to send Marty back to the future.

Over time, many unsuccessful efforts were put into place to replace the clock tower from the current mayor in office.

In 1985, the Department of Social Services occupied the building, and the lawn had been replaced by a parking lot.

In 1985A, the courthouse had been turned into Biff Tannen's Pleasure Paradise Casino & Hotel, with over twenty-seven floors. This was undone in 1985B after Marty burned the Grays Sports Almanac in 1955 using a matchbook he had taken from the Pleasure Paradise.

In an alternate 1986 where Hill Valley is a repressed dystopia, the clock tower has become Citizen Brown's monument to cold efficiency and order. Marty crashes the DeLorean into a billboard showing Citizen Brown embracing the clock tower. Brown's office is located in the room directly behind the clock face. In this timeline the clock is actually functioning, meaning that in this timeline, First Citizen Brown promptly repaired the damage done by the lightning strike in order to maintain his symbol of efficiency.

Hill Valley Courthouse 1990

The new clock tower in 1990.

In 1990, in the revised timeline, a new clock was installed on the Hill Valley Courthouse, despite efforts from the Hill Valley Preservation Society.

2015

The 2015 courthouse and its large, futuristic-looking darkened windows form the background of this publicity shot of Michael J. FoxChristopher Lloyd and Freddie posing with the DeLorean time machine on the set of Back to the Future Part II.

In 2015, in the original timeline, the courthouse had large darkened windows at the front and had become a shopping mall with underground shops with a lush garden and a decorative pond in the courtyard. The clock, however, was still non-functional after sixty years. On October 21, Griff Tannen and his gang were chasing Marty through the town square on hoverboards, believing him to be his future son Marty Jr. They ended up crashing into the building, which resulted in the gang being arrested and thus preventing the robbery that would've put Marty Jr. in jail.

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Él Doc ] suspiró. Ese era uno de los problemas de viajar en el tiempo Un par de las carreteras que esperaba tomar [en bicicleta ] para llegar aquí [Mason Street] aún no estaban construidas.
—De Regreso al futuro II de Craig Shaw Gardner (cita, página 159)

Hill Valley , California , se describe con gran detalle en la trilogía de Regreso al Futuro . No solo se mencionan direcciones en los diálogos, sino que  también se muestran mapas y una página de la guía telefónica de 1955. Dos importantes carreteras estatales convergen cerca de Courthouse Square , donde la Ruta 395 de EE. UU. , que corre de norte a sur por Main Street , se cruza con la Ruta 8 de EE. UU. , que corre de este a oeste por Second Street y paralela a Hill Street .

El origen del sistema de numeración de calles está cerca de la estación de ferrocarril de Hill Valley . [ 1 ]

En relación con la torre del reloj , la tienda Western Auto y el Bank of America se encuentran al norte de la calle Segunda. La granja McFly en 1885 y el autocine Pohatchee en 1955 parecen estar ubicados al norte de Hill Valley, ya que Marty McFly camina por las vías del tren desde el norte, antes de llegar a la estación de ferrocarril de Hill Valley .

El Teatro Municipal se encuentra al este de la torre del reloj, en una calle cuyo nombre no se muestra (aunque en el primer borrador se mencionaba como Avenida Monroe ) [ 2 ] . Sin embargo, la calle se identifica como Avenida Hubbard en un anuncio de Statler Studebaker . [ 3 ] Tras pasar por la plaza en 1985 , Marty continúa hacia el este para llegar a la escuela secundaria Hill Valley . Con Jennifer Parker , regresa caminando desde el lado este después de la Batalla de las Bandas .

El Teatro Essex se encuentra al sur de la torre del reloj, en la cuadra 400 de Hill Street. Cuando Marty sale en patineta del garaje de Doc en 1985, se acerca desde el sur. Al caminar desde el punto de referencia de 3 kilómetros en el futuro emplazamiento de Lyon Estates en 1955, también se acerca al pueblo desde el sur (en 2015, Doc vuela desde Lyon Estates desde el lado oeste por una pasarela aérea este-oeste). Cuando Marty regresa a 1985, corre hacia el sur, hacia el centro comercial Lone Pine .

El Café de Lou y la gasolinera Texaco se encuentran al oeste de la torre del reloj, en la cuadra 100 de la calle Main. Marty viaja hacia el oeste mientras corre tras George en 1955. Cuando llega al pueblo en 1885, viene del lado oeste, donde la estación de tren se encuentra a pocas cuadras de la plaza.


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Hill Valley is a fictional town in California that serves as the setting of the Back to the Future trilogy and its animated spin-off series. In the trilogy, Hill Valley is seen in four different time periods – 1885, 1955, 1985, and 2015 – as well as in a dystopian alternate 1985.[1] The films contain many sight gags, verbal innuendos and detailed set design elements, from which a detailed and consistent history of the area can be derived.

The city name "Hill Valley" is a joke, being an oxymoron. However, an early script for Back to the Future Part II mentioned that Hill Valley was named after its founder, William "Bill" Hill.

Production

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For Back to the Future, the producers considered filming the town square scenes in the real city of Petaluma, California, but soon realized it would be prohibitively expensive and impractical to alter a real place to suit the different eras.[2] Instead, filming was completed on the Universal Studios backlot, where they had more control.[3] The town square set was called Mockingbird Square after the 1962 film To Kill a Mockingbird, but was later known as Courthouse Square. It had been used for many films and television shows dating back to 1948's An Act of Murder,[4] including the first 1959 episode of the sci-fi series The Twilight Zone, called "Where Is Everybody?"[5]

The Hill Valley courthouse can be seen in the movies Bruce AlmightyGremlinsBye Bye BirdieSneakersThe Offspring's music video "Why Don't You Get a Job?", an episode of Major Dad entitled "Who's That Blonde", and an episode of Buffy The Vampire Slayer. The clock tower was a removable addition, one of many ways in which the Courthouse building has been redressed over the years to suit the needs of a production.

Many of the cars that appear in the 2015 scenes are either modified for the film or concept cars. Examples include Ford ProbeSaab EV-1Citroën DS 21Pontiac Banshee ConceptPontiac Fiero and Volkswagen Beetle. Cars reused from other science fiction films include the "Star Car" from The Last Starfighter (1984) and a "Spinner" from Blade Runner (1982). Griff's car is a modified BMW 633, which was never sold in the convertible form seen in the film.[6]

For Back to the Future Part III, Hill Valley 1885 was filmed in Sonora, California. The producers were able to use the land rent-free under an agreement to leave the set buildings on site. All buildings except the clock tower were left intact after production completed.

On November 6, 1990, an arson fire on the Universal Studios Hollywood backlot destroyed much of Courthouse Square, the setting in which all the other time periods were filmed. The Courthouse survived the devastation and other facades were reconstructed.[7] Another fire on September 6, 1997 damaged Courthouse Square. The backlot facades were rebuilt, with the exception of the facades used for Hill Valley 1885.

On February 14, 1999, a fire at Whittier High School, California, where some, mostly exterior scenes were filmed,[8] destroyed the men's gym there. On June 1, 2008, another fire destroyed part of the rebuilt Courthouse Square backlot and damaged the clock tower.[9][10]

Real-life locations

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Other real-life shooting locations of Hill Valley landmarks include:[8]

Location

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According to an 1885 Central Pacific Railroad map in Back to the Future Part III, Hill Valley is located in Northern California in the Sierra Nevada. Dialogue in Back to the Future Part II and Back to the Future Part III places it in "Hill County", a fictional county in California.[12]

After Marty decides against racing Needles at the end of Back to the Future Part III, the zip code 95420 is visible on the letterhead of the printout Jennifer brought back with her from 2015 announcing Marty's termination from Cusco. This zip code corresponds with Caspar, California, an unincorporated community in Mendocino County.

Fictional history

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The following information is taken directly from places and events shown or mentioned in the three films:

Early settlement

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The town of Hill Valley was first settled in 1850 and incorporated in 1865. By the 1880s, it was connected by railroad to San Francisco. Construction of a new county courthouse was well underway in 1885, the setting of Back to the Future Part III, in which a new clock was dedicated for the building. The Shonash Ravine Bridge was completed in the summer of 1886, around the same time the ravine was renamed Clayton Ravine in memory of Clara Clayton, a school teacher who died from falling into the chasm. In a revised timeline where Doc Brown saved Clara's life, the town renamed it Eastwood Ravine when it is believed that "Clint Eastwood" (an alias used by Marty McFly) fell into the ravine.


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Town square

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By 1955, as seen in the first two Back to the Future films, the area around the courthouse has developed into the downtown of Hill Valley. In front of the courthouse is a grass-covered town square, with stores, two movie theaters, Essex and Town, and cafés on the surrounding streets. Downtown also features a Texaco station, a Bank of America branch, and a Studebaker dealership. A key moment in the town's fictional history takes place on Saturday, November 12, 1955, at 10:04 p.m. PST, when lightning strikes the courthouse's clock tower, freezing the clock at 10:04. The clock is never repaired and becomes a local landmark, left in its non-functional state at the behest of the Hill Valley Preservation Society. In the revised timeline, the broken piece of ledge from Doc Brown's successful attempt to channel lightning from the clock tower is likewise never repaired, as can be seen when Marty returns to 1985 and in 2015, but not in the alternate 1985.

In Marty's original timeline, many of the town square businesses have moved or closed down by 1985. The new businesses which replaced them include a second-hand shop, a yoga studio, and an adult book store, and the Studebaker dealership becomes a Toyota dealership, but is still owned by the Statlers, though the Texaco station and Bank of America branch remained. The Essex movie theater now shows porno movies while the Town Theater is used for church services, and the courthouse is in a state of disrepair, and at night at least one homeless person (called "Red" by Marty) sleeps on the town square park benches.[13]

The grassy park outside of the courthouse has been converted into a parking lot. "That was always one of the major elements of the story even in its earliest incarnation," screenwriter Bob Gale says in The Making of Back to the Future, "was to take a place and show what happens to it over a period of thirty years. What happened to everybody's home town is obviously the same thing. They built the mall out in the boonies, and killed all the business downtown, and everything changed."[13]

By the 21st century, the downtown area has experienced a revival. The courthouse has been converted into the Courthouse Mall. Businesses have begun to move back into and around the town square and the parking lot has been replaced by a pond. The clock on top of the courthouse is still preserved at 10:04 and the mall's logo is an illustration of a lightning bolt striking the clock tower. The Town Theater/Assembly of Christ building has been converted to an art museum with a mural painted on the front side of the building above the marquee. The Texaco station remains, while the Toyota dealership is now a Pontiac dealership, though in reality General Motors discontinued the Pontiac brand in 2010 as part of its bankruptcy.

Signs that say "Welcome to Hill Valley" are seen in 1955, 1985 and 2015. Both 1955 and 2015 signs have symbols representing the RotaryKiwanis and Lions clubs. The 1955 sign has the logos of the YMCAJaycees, and Future Farmers of America while the 2015 sign has those of the Neighborhood Crime Watch eye logo and the 4-H Club clover logo. The "Welcome to Hill Valley" sign in 1985 does not contain any signage representing any clubs and mentions the name of Mayor Goldie Wilson.

In the alternate 1985, Marty is seen walking over the sign, which has been knocked down and an 'E' has been spray painted over the 'I' in HILL VALLEY making the name HELL VALLEY. This sign does not display the name of the mayor but instead the words "A Nice Place to Live" as seen in 1955. A sign referencing US Highway 395 is shown next to the Town Square in 1955.

Twin Pines Mall / Lone Pine Mall

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Twin Pines Mall is a shopping center located outside Hill Valley, where Doctor Emmett Brown first tests his time machine, making his dog Einstein the first time traveler in the world. The site where the mall was filmed for the movie is actually Puente Hills Mall, located in City of Industry, California. The J.C. Penney location seen in the movie has been shut down and is now occupied by a 24 Hour Fitness center. The mall's name changed to Lone Pine Mall after Marty went back to 1985, because he accidentally destroyed one of the two baby pine trees for which it was named, as he fled an irate Old Man Peabody, whose barn the DeLorean crashed into upon arriving in 1955.

Alternate history

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In Back to the Future Part II, a nightmarish alternate version of Hill Valley, dubbed 1985A by Doc, is depicted with a partial history. Due to the influence of the powerful and corrupt Biff Tannen, gambling was legalized in 1979. Tannen's toxic waste reclamation plants were built downtown, polluting the air and leading to pollution alerts to be issued. All of the local businesses in the downtown area closed or relocated and were replaced with strip clubsporn theaters, and brothels. Tannen bought off the police. Consequently, crime increased and biker gangs settled in the city. Hill Valley's public schools burned down and the courthouse was converted into Biff Tannen's Pleasure Paradise Casino and Hotel.

The clock on the courthouse remains at 10:04, although despite the damage the Doc did to the tower's platform in 1955, for whatever reason, it now seems to have disappeared. Biff murdered George McFly, Marty's dad, on March 15, 1973, so that he could marry George's wife Lorraine, Marty's mom, making him a corrupt family man as well as town ruler. He helped Richard Nixon remain President of the United States until at least 1985. Biff's effect on history affected the whole world – in this version of history, the Vietnam War was still ongoing by May 1983.

According to the original script for Back to the Future Part II a partial view of the alternate 2015 was also to be depicted. By this time Biff now owns half the state of California with his influence having gained his son, Biff Jr., the seat of governor and they uphold their power and corruption with an army of large, powerful cyborg police officers, which now has its 5 star resort in what would have been the courthouse mall in 2015.

Back to the Future: The Game alternate history

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Another timeline, branching off the events of Back to the Future: The Game, sees Irving "Kid" Tannen, the father of Biff Tannen and a prohibitionism era mafioso, avoid his lengthy incarceration for illegal consumption and sale of alcohol. In the alternate 1986 Biff Tannen has two brothers, and the Tannen family is a recognized crime family, ruling over Hill Valley with an iron grip.[14]

In yet another alternate history, branching off the events of Back to the Future: The Game, in 1931 a teen Emmett Brown, fell in love with the young journalist Edna Strickland: as a result she married Emmett, convincing him to pursue sociological and political goals. She managed to win him over by keeping him interested in science, but in a manner that his scientific skills could be used to control people instead of using science to understand mysteries and for the betterment of humanity. Under "Citizen Brown"'s influence, by 1985 Hill Valley is a technological dystopia, where Emmett Brown oversees a fascist regime, controlling every single activity of his citizens, routinely brainwashed and spied over.[15]

In this new Hill Valley, in a reversal of their usual roles, Marty McFly is a square, serious and devoted to Emmett Brown to a fault, as the "original" McFly is dismayed to discover, and Jennifer is a rebellious rocker, a wild child with an unpredictable streak. Lorraine is again a mildly obese, inebriated sad woman. George has reverted to be the loser he is in the first, original timeline, although his oppressor is big government instead of Biff. George reprises his "peeping Tom" activities as seen in Back to the Future, under the guise of monitoring security camera footage for Citizen Brown.[16]

Biff Tannen is now one part of the Citizen Plus program, brainwashed into obedience. Hill Valley is a technologically advanced marvel, owned by a now rich and powerful Emmett Brown, with even the iconic Town Hall replaced by a huge pane with the E. Brown Industries symbol. Since in this timeline Emmett Brown never developed time-travel technology, the events of the original series never took place, and the Eastwood Ravine is still known as the Clayton Ravine, as no one saved Clara from her death.[17]

The last attempt to fix the damages involved with the events of Back to the Future: The Game ends with even a more radical change. Edna Strickland travels under an assumed name to 1876 to act as a moral guide of the newly founded Hill Valley. After a failed confrontation with Beauregard Tannen, a Confederate soldier who built and founded the Palace Saloon, she accidentally causes a conflagration that consumes Hill Valley, turning it into a ghost town with herself as the only resident. As a result of her actions, Marty and Doc witness 1931 Hill Valley disappear and be replaced by a valley made of hills, implying that this was how Hill Valley got its name in the first place.[18]

Again, Marty and Doc manage to restore the continuity, that now sports minor alterations: Arthur and Silvia, Marty's grandparents, prepone their marriage to 1931. It was 1936 in the original timeline. Doc Brown spends more time in 1986 and less traveling through time. Kid Tannen is now reformed, married to Edna Strickland and having a better influence over Biff.[19]

Places

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Many family businesses are passed down from generation to generation in Hill Valley. As a result, the city changes but remains similar from one generation to the next, as businesses are updated but rarely change. These recurring elements were a deliberate choice on the part of the filmmakers. The production designer of Back to the Future Part II, Rick Carter, is quoted in a DVD extra as saying, "The future is built on the present." Director Robert Zemeckis adds that the continuity between the different eras in Hill Valley's history is an example of the adage, "the more things change, the more they stay the same".[20]

The following is a list of such places. When a place is not seen or mentioned in a movie, it is marked unknown. Some buildings shown in 1885 scenes are actually located further down the street in an area not shown in the first two movies.

place No.188519551985Alternate 19852015
1 Hill Valley Courthouse and Clock Tower (under construction) Hill Valley Courthouse and Clock Tower Department of Social Services Biff Tannen's Pleasure Paradise Casino & Hotel
The Biff Tannen Museum
Hill Valley Courthouse Mall
2 Town Theater (showing The Atomic Kid) Town Theater (as the Assembly of Christ Church) Biffco Toxic Waste Reclamation Plant Hill Valley Museum of Art:
"A Bellman Retrospective"
3 Holt's Diner Elmo's Rib Cafe
4 Honest Joe Statler's Fine Horses (in different location — this spot actually empty) Statler Studebaker Statler Toyota PIG Mart Pontiac Sales and Hover Conversions
5 Ruth's Frock Shop Goodwill Industries Tanya Exotic Sex Goddess Hyatas All Natural Earth-Grown Fruits
6 Jacobson & Field Attorneys at Law Loans Bad Rap Bail Bonds Simulex
7 (under construction) Western Auto Stores empty store (displaying "Re-Elect Mayor Goldie Wilson" signage) Bondage Hill Valley Gifts / The Hydroponic Gardner
8 Wells Fargo & Co Bluebird Motel Al's Tattoo Art
(out of business, for sale)
Video Nude Hardcore Movies
Pawn Shop
Sight Sound and Mind
9 Elite Barber Shop empty store (sign on window saying "We Moved to Twin Pines Mall") Bangkok Sauna & Asian Massage Mr. Perfect All-Natural Steroids
10 Hill Valley Stationers Cupid's Adult Book Store Hell Hole XXX Eclipse — Contemporary & Traditional Lighting Store
11 Zale's Jewelers Abrams Brokerage Corporation Hardcore X Pizza Hut
12 Unknown J.D. Armstrong Realty Loans Peeparama True Blues
13 Unknown Ask Mr. Foster Travel Service Naughty and Naked Uniglobe Travel
14 Marshal's Office Bank of America Bank of America Naughty XXX Hill Valley Transit bus stop (second floor advertising Goldie Wilson Hover Conversions and Major League Baseball World Series Sports-Flash news on a holographic billboard sign)
15 Palace Saloon Lou's Cafe Lou's Fitness Aerobics Center War Zone Bar Cafe 80's
16 Barber shop Roy's Record Store The Third Eye Time to Shoot Photo Store Blast From The Past Antique Store
17 Doc's Blacksmith shop (different building) Texaco full-service station Texaco gas station/food mart (area cluttered with piles of junk furniture and other garbage) 7-Eleven (first floor)
Texaco automated Havoline station (second floor)
18 Unknown Hal's Bike Shop Hog Heaven French Fantasies The Bot Shoppe
19 Livery and Feed Stable Lawrence Building Broadway Florist French Fantasies Hill Valley Surrogate Parenting Center
20 (under construction) Essex Theater (as a mainstream movie house showing Cattle Queen of Montana) Essex Theater (as an adult movie house showing Orgy, American Style XXX) Hill Valley Theater of Live Sex Acts Holomax Theater (showing Jaws 19: "This time it's really, really personal.")
21 Hill Valley Telegraph Building with Sherwin-Williams Paint billboard sign Toxic Waste Reclamation Plant Unknown (office building displaying Skyway Information)
22 Lyon Estates (under development) Lyon Estates (middle-class neighborhood) Lyon Estates (rough neighborhood) Lyon Estates (low-class neighborhood)
23 Empty land near Shonash Ravine Farmland near Clayton/Eastwood Ravine Hilldale, a new housing development near Clayton/Eastwood Ravine with 1980s-style homes and described as being a rather affluent part of Hill Valley Neighborhood destroyed, now extremely dangerous Hilldale, a rough neighborhood
24 Hill Valley School (in different building than later schools) Hill Valley High School Remains of Hill Valley High School (burned down in 1979) Hill Valley High School
25 Unknown Gaynor's Hideaway Bar Dee Dee's Delight Bar Fusion Bar
26 McFly Farm Twin Pines Ranch Twin Pines/Lone Pine Mall Lone Pine Mall Lone Pine Fli-Drome
27 Empty lot Brown Mansion Doc Brown's garage/Burger King Doc Brown's garage Doctor Brown's futuristic laboratory

Reception

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Back to the Future has been criticized for presenting an idealized 1950s setting almost entirely populated by White people, and contrasting this with a more troubled 1985 town run by a Black mayor. In Black Space: Imagining Race in Science Fiction Film, Adilifu Nama writes, "The film performs robust semiotic work around race by symbolically associating the degraded cityscape of Hill Valley with inept black leadership. Marty's personal family crisis, marked by a socially impotent father and an alcoholic mother, is mirrored in the condition of Hill Valley. Boarded-up businesses, schoolyard graffiti, and an adult-video bookstore placed in the center of town indicate that the Hill Valley of 1985 is suffering from severe economic and moral decline. Alongside these visual signifiers of socioeconomic crisis are posters of the Black mayor, Goldie Wilson, scattered throughout downtown Hill Valley."[21]

See also

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Okay, I know the city itself is fictitious. However, related to the accepted answer to Where is Hill Valley?, does this map, used in BTTF3, correspond to a real location? Note that the linked question is referring to the general area / in-universe location of Hill Valley. In this case, I am asking if the area illustrated in the map corresponds to a real geographic location, in California or somewhere else.

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I notice the inclusion of several rivers, lakes and tributaries so I was curious if those features lined up to true locations on the map or if they were simply fabricated by the movie's art department when creating the movie prop. If they truly exist, does that mean that the exact location of Hill Valley could be located, even if it is only (in all likelihood) a clump of trees in the forest?

https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/105273/does-hill-valley-ca-exist


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