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From: lealtad  (Original message) Sent: 24/10/2005 20:37
Bolivianos apoyan a Cuba frente a hostilidad de EE.UU.

Sucre, Bolivia, 24 oct (PL) Con una declaración de pleno apoyo a Cuba frente al bloqueo y la agresión persistente de Estados Unidos a esa nación, culminó aquí el V Congreso Boliviano de solidaridad con la isla.

El pronunciamiento, aprobado anoche, expresa "el apoyo solidario e incondicional al pueblo cubano y al comandante Fidel Castro Ruz por la obra de consolidar el proceso revolucionario frente a la hostil política de Estados Unidos".

Denuncia y rechaza el bloqueo anticubano, que califica de criminal y genocida, y suscribe la demanda de la comunidad internacional, de que cese inmediatamente esa política, por violar la soberanía y la libre determinación de Cuba.

Condenamos cualquier intento de Estados Unidos de agredir militarmente a Cuba, agrega la declaración, aL tiempo que advierte que cualquier ataque contra la Isla será asumido por los bolivianos como ataque a ellos.

Reitera la solidaridad de las organizaciones solidarias con Cuba "con los cinco héroes cubanos presos del imperio" y exige su inmediata libertad y respeto a sus derechos.

El documento consigna igualmente la adhesión de esas agrupaciones a la campaña internacional en favor del otorgamiento del premio Nobel de la Paz al presidente de Cuba, Fidel Castro.

El V Congreso boliviano de solidaridad con Cuba repudia al mismo tiempo las maniobras estadounidenses para que la comisión de Derechos Humanos en las Naciones Unidas condene a ese país y ratifica la certeza de que esos derechos rigen plenamente en territorio cubano.

Convoca a una amplia participación boliviana en la Brigada 45 aniversario del Instituto Cubano de Amistad con los pueblos (ICAP), a celebrarse en noviembre próximo, y en la Brigada Sudamericana de Solidaridad, prevista para febrero del 2006, y la Mundial, de noviembre de 2006.

Expresa reconocimiento por la solidaridad dispensada por Cuba a cientos de becados bolivianos que estudian en universidades de ese país, y la extensíón a Bolivia de la Opración Milagro, esfuerzo de Cuba y Venezuela para operaciones oftalmológicas de pacientes pobres.

Ratifica el compromiso de impulsar una mayor integración boliviano-cubana, con acciones como una mayor difusión de la realidad cubana, el estímulo al hermanamiento entre ciudades de las dos naciones y el más amplio intercambio cultural.

La declaración saluda los esfuerzos de Cuba por esclarecer los alcances de la acción de terrorismo, así como expresamos la necesidad de seguir denunciando el Plan Cóndor, mecanismo de coordinación represiva de las dictaduras del cono sudamericano de décadas pasadas.

Contrasta esos esfuerzos con la doble moral del gobierno de Estados Unidos frente a la lucha contra el terrorismo, evidenciada por la protección de Washington a terroristas conocidos y confesos, como Luis Posada Carriles, cuya extradición a Venezuela demanda, por ser prófugo de la justicia venezolana.

rgc/mrs

lealtad



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From: Amelia442 Sent: 25/10/2005 07:11
Amiga Maribea:
 
Como decimos en el patio: Te tocó la rifa del guanajo........... jajajajjajaja
 
Sé que no necesitas ayuda, así que te dejo a la/ el  agraciada/do, que ha estrechado la arrugada mano del viejo " macao " ( y eso que no ha trabajado en su vida, que si hubiera trabajado......... ).
 
Hacía días que no me reía tanto, por lo que me imagino que cuando leas esto, lo vás a vacilar un montón, pón un son que te guste y tomate un mojito, que esto no se sabe si es POCHOLO Y SU PANDILLA, o CHORIZO, CHORICITO Y CHORICITICO.
 
 
jajajjajajjajaja
 
 

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From: mfelix28 Sent: 25/10/2005 08:23
que ni usted ni nadie pueden afirmar con las pruebas conseguidas que fue Posada Carriles ni por orden expresa del gobierno de USA
Maribea, Ud. no se entera.
Ya lo puse en el foro, pero se lo volveré a repetir tantas veces como quierra.
Vea, no hace falta indagar mucho, el propio cerdo de Posada ( en entrevsita al Mew York Times) y el FBI y la CIA ( en sus papeles desclasificados dicen lo que Ud. parece que ignora.
Nota: deje el pesado, coma el fósforo directamente, en bocadillos, con papas, como queire, pero apurese.
Vamos allá por enesima vez ( si Ud. no se cansa de "olvidar", yo no me voy a cansar de "recordarselo")
 
Press Coverage
"Case of Cuban Exile Could Test the U.S. Definition of Terrorist"
by Tim Weiner
New York Times
May 9, 2005
"Papers connect exile to bomb plot"
by Oscar Corral
Miami Herald
May 10, 2005

"Documentos vinculan a Posada con ataque"
por Oscar Corral

Miami Herald via elnuevoherald.com
May 10, 2005

Notese que el Nuevo Herald, la palabra "exilio" poe la palabra "Posada" ( a ver si cuela)

LUIS POSADA CARRILES
THE DECLASSIFIED RECORD

CIA and FBI Documents Detail Career in International Terrorism; Connection to U.S.

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 153

For more information contact
Peter Kornbluh - 202/994-7116

May 10, 2005

Update - May 18, 2005 - Documents featured on May 17, 2005 edition of ABC's Nightline

Washington D.C. May 18, 2005 - The National Security Archive today posted additional documents that show that the CIA had concrete advance intelligence, as early as June 1976, on plans by Cuban exile terrorist groups to bomb a Cubana airliner. The Archive also posted another document that shows that the FBI's attache in Caracas had multiple contacts with one of the Venezuelans who placed the bomb on the plane, and provided him with a visa to the U.S. five days before the bombing, despite suspicions that he was engaged in terrorist activities at the direction of Luis Posada Carriles.

Both documents were featured last night on ABC Nightline's program on Luis Posada Carriles, who was detained in Miami yesterday by Homeland Security.

In addition, the Archive posted the first report to Secretary of State Kissinger from the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research on the bombing of Cubana flight 455. The report noted that a CIA source had overheard Posada prior to the bombing in late September 1976 stating that, "We are going to hit a Cuban airliner." This information was apparently not passed to the CIA until after the plane went down.

There is no indication in the declassified files that indicates that the CIA alerted Cuban government authorities to the terrorist threat against Cubana planes. Still classified CIA records indicate that the informant might actually have been Posada himself who at that time was in periodic contact with both CIA and FBI agents in Venezuela.

CIA, June 22, 1976, Report, "Possible Plans of Cuban Exile Extremists to Blow Up a Cubana Airliner"

FBI, October 9, 1976, "Unknown Subjects; Suspected Bombing of Cubana Airlines DC-8 Near Barbados, West Indies, October 6, 1976"

State Department, Bureau of Intelligence and Research, October 18, 1976, Memorandum, "Castro's Allegations"


 

Washington D.C. May 10, 2005 - Declassified CIA and FBI records posted today on the Web by the National Security Archive at George Washington University identify Cuban exile Luis Posada Carriles, who is apparently in Florida seeking asylum, as a former CIA agent and as one of the "engineer[s]" of the 1976 terrorist bombing of Cubana Airlines flight 455 that killed 73 passengers.

The documents include a November 1976 FBI report on the bombing cited in yesterday's New York Times article "Case of Cuban Exile Could Test the U.S. Definition of Terrorist," CIA trace reports covering the Agency's recruitment of Posada in the 1960s, as well as the FBI intelligence reporting on the downing of the plane. The Archive also posted a second FBI report, dated one day after the bombing, in which a confidential source "all but admitted that Posada and [Orlando] Bosch had engineered the bombing of the airline." In addition, the posting includes several documents relating to Bosch and his suspected role in the downing of the jetliner on October 6, 1976.

Using a false passport, Posada apparently snuck into the United States in late March and remains in hiding. His lawyer announced that Posada is asking the Bush administration for asylum because of the work he had done for the Central Intelligence Agency in the 1960s. The documents posted today include CIA records confirming that Posada was an agent in the 1960s and early 1970s, and remained an informant in regular contact with CIA officials at least until June 1976.

In 1985, Posada escaped from prison in Venezuela where he had been incarcerated after the plane bombing and remains a fugitive from justice. He went directly to El Salvador, where he worked, using the alias "Ramon Medina," on the illegal contra resupply program being run by Lt. Col. Oliver North in the Reagan National Security Council. In 1998 he was interviewed by Ann Louise Bardach for the New York Times at a secret location in Aruba, and claimed responsibility for a string of hotel bombings in Havana during which eleven people were injured and one Italian businessman was killed. Most recently he was imprisoned in Panama for trying to assassinate Fidel Castro in December 2000 with 33 pounds of C-4 explosives. In September 2004, he and three co-conspirators were suddenly pardoned, and Posada went to Honduras. Venezuela is now preparing to submit an official extradition request to the United States for his return.

According to Peter Kornbluh, who directs the Archive's Cuba Documentation Project, Posada's presence in the United States "poses a direct challenge to the Bush administration's terrorism policy. The declassified record," he said, "leaves no doubt that Posada has been one of the world's most unremitting purveyors of terrorist violence." President Bush has repeatedly stated that no nation should harbor terrorists, and all nations should work to bring individuals who advocate and employ the use of terror tactics to justice. During the Presidential campaign last year Bush stated that "I think you can create conditions so that those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world." Although Posada has reportedly been in the Miami area for more than six weeks, the FBI has indicated it is not actively searching for him.


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THE CIA CONNECTION

Luis Posada Carriles had a long relationship with the CIA. In February 1961, he joined the CIA's Brigade 2506 to invade Cuba, although the ship to which he was assigned never landed at the Bay of Pigs. While in the U.S. military between 1963 and 1965 the CIA recruited him and trained him in demolitions; he subsequently became a trainer of other paramilitary exile forces in the mid 1960s. CIA documents posted below reveal that he was terminated as an asset in July 1967, but then reinstated four months later and apparently remained an asset until 1974. The documents also show that he remained in contact with the Agency until June 1976, only three months before the plane bombing.

Document 1: CIA, October 13, 1976, Report, "Traces on Persons Involved in 6 Oct 1976 Cubana Crash."

In the aftermath of the bombing of Cubana flight 455, the CIA ran a file check on all names associated with the terror attack. In a report to the FBI the Agency stated that it had no association with the two Venezuelans who were arrested. A section on Luis Posada Carriles was heavily redacted when the document was declassified. But the FBI retransmitted the report three days later and that version was released uncensored revealing Posada's relations with the CIA.

Document 2: FBI, October 16, 1976, Retransmission of CIA Trace Report

In this uncensored version of the CIA trace report, the Agency admits that it "had a relationship with one person whose name has been mentioned in connection with the reported bombing," Luis Posada Carriles. The CIA file check shows that Posada was "a former agent of CIA." Although it doesn't say when his employment began, it indicates he was terminated briefly in the summer of 1967 but then reinstated in the fall and continued as an asset while a high level official in the Venezuelan intelligence service, DISIP, until 1974. Even then, "occasional contact with him" continued until June 1976.

Document 3: CIA, June 1966, File search on Luis "Pozada"

In this file search the CIA states that Posada has "been of operational interest to this Agency since April 1965," the likely date when he first became a paid CIA agent.

Document 4: FBI, July 18, 1966, "Cuba"

An informant reports to the FBI that Posada is a CIA agent and is "receiving approximately $300.00 per month from CIA."

Document 5: CIA, April 17, 1972, Personal Record Questionnaire on Posada

This "PRQ" was compiled in 1972 at a time Posada was a high level official at the Venezuelan intelligence service, DISIP, in charge of demolitions. The CIA was beginning to have some concerns about him, based on reports that he had taken CIA explosives equipment to Venezuela, and that he had ties to a Miami mafia figure named Lefty Rosenthal. The PRQ spells out Posada's personal background and includes his travel to various countries between 1956 and 1971. It also confirms that one of his many aliases was "Bambi Carriles."

EARLY TERRORIST PLOTTING

During the time that Posada was on the CIA payroll in the mid-1960s, he participated in a number of plots that involved sabotage and explosives. FBI reporting recorded some of Posada's earliest activities, including his financial ties to Jorge Mas Canosa, who would later become head of the powerful anti-Castro lobby, the Cuban American National Foundation.

Document 6: FBI, July 7, 1965, "Luis Posada Carriles"

The FBI transmits information obtained from the CIA's Mexico station titled "Intention of Cuban Representation in Exile (RECE) to Blow up a Cuban or Soviet Vessel in Veracruz, Mexico." The document summarizes intelligence on a payment that Jorge Mas Canosa, then the head of RECE, has made to Luis Posada to finance a sabotage operation against ships in Mexico. Posada reportedly has "100 pounds of C-4 explosives and detonators" and limpet mines to use in the operation.

Document 7: FBI, July 13, 1965, "Cuban Representation in Exile (RECE)"

A FBI cable reports on intelligence obtained from "MM T-1" (a code reference to the CIA) on a number of RECE terrorist operations, including the bombing of the Soviet library in Mexico City. The document contains information on payments from Jorge Mas Canosa to Luis Posada for an operation to bomb ships in the port of Veracruz, as well as a description of Posada and a statement he gave to the FBI in June of 1964.

Document 8: FBI, May 17, 1965, "Roberto Alejos Arzu; Luis Sierra Lopez, Neutrality Matters, Internal Security-Guatemala"

The FBI links Posada to a major plot to overthrow the government of Guatemala. U.S. Customs agents force Posada and other co-conspirators to turn over a cache of weapons that are listed in this document. The weapons include napalm, 80 pounds of C-4 explosives, and 28 pounds of C-3 explosives.

BOMBING OF CUBANA FLIGHT 455

Document 9: FBI, October 7, 1976, Secret Intelligence Report, "Suspected Bombing of Cubana Airlines DC-8 Near Barbados"

In one of the very first reports on the October 6, 1976, downing of Cubana Flight 455, the FBI Venezuelan bureau cables that a confidential source has identified Luis Posada and Orlando Bosch as responsible for the bombing. "The source all but admitted that Posada and Bosch had engineered the bombing of the airline," according to the report. The report appears to indicate that the Venezuelan secret police, DISIP, were arranging for Bosch and Posada to leave Caracas, although this section of the document has been censored.

In the report, the FBI identifies two Venezuelan suspects arrested in Barbados: Freddy Lugo and Jose Vazquez Garcia. Vazquez Garcia is an alias for Hernan Ricardo Lozano. Both Ricardo and Lugo worked for Luis Posada's private security firm in Caracas at the time of the bombing.

Document 10: FBI, November 2, 1976, Secret Intelligence Report "Bombing of Cubana Airlines DC-8 Near Barbados, West Indies, October 6, 1976"

The FBI receives information from a source who has spoken with Ricardo Morales Navarrete, a Cuban exile informant working for DISIP in Caracas. Known as "Monkey" Morales, he tells the FBI source of two meetings during which plotting for the plane bombing took place: one in the Hotel Anauco Hilton in Caracas, and another in Morales room at the Hilton. Both meetings were attended by Posada Carriles. A key passage of the report quotes Morales as stating that "some people in the Venezuelan government are involved in this airplane bombing, and that if Posada Carriles talks, then Morales Navarrete and others in the Venezuelan government will 'go down the tube.' He said that if people start talking 'we'll have our own Watergate.'" Morales also states that after the plane went down, one of the men who placed the bomb aboard the jet called Orlando Bosch and reported: "A bus with 73 dogs went off a cliff and all got killed."

Document 11: FBI, November 3, 1976, Cable, "Bombing of Cubana Airlines DC-8 Near Barbados, West Indies, October 6, 1976"

The FBI reports on arrest warrants issued by a Venezuelan judge for Posada, Bosch, Freddy Lugo and Ricardo Lozano.

ORLANDO BOSCH AND ANTI-CASTRO TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS

Document 12: FBI, January 24, 1977, Secret Report, "Coordination of United Revolutionary Organizations (CORU) Neutrality Matters - Cuba - (Anti-Castro)"

The FBI reports on a plot to carry out terrorist attacks that will divert attention from the prosecution of Orlando Bosch and Luis Posada in Caracas. Orders for the attacks are attributed to Orlando Garcia Vazquez, a Cuban exile who was then head of the Venezuelan intelligence service, DISIP. (Garcia Vazquez currently lives in Miami.) The report also provides some details on CORU.

Document 13: FBI, August 16, 1978, Secret Report, "Coordinacion de Organizaciones Revolucionarias Unidas (Coordination of United Revolutionary Organizations) (CORU), Neutrality Matters - Cuba - (Anti-Castro)"

This FBI report provides a comprehensive overview of CORU which the FBI describes as "an anti-Castro terrorist umbrella organization" headed by Orlando Bosch. The report records how CORU was created at a secret meeting in Santo Domingo on June 11, 1976, during which a series of bombing attacks were planned, including the bombing of a Cubana airliner. On page 6, the report relates in great detail how Orlando Bosch was met in Caracas on September 8, 1976, by Luis Posada and other anti-Castro exiles and a deal was struck as to what kind of activities he could organize on Venezuelan soil. The document also contains substantive details on behind-the-scene efforts in Caracas to obtain the early release of Bosch and Posada from prison.

IRAN-CONTRA AND POSADA (A.K.A. RAMON MEDINA)

Document 14: September 2, 1986, Contra re-supply document, [Distribution of Warehoused Contra Weapons and Equipment - in Spanish with English translation]

After bribing his way out of prison in Venezuela in September 1985, Posada went directly to El Salvador to work on the illicit contra resupply operations being run by Lt. Col. Oliver North. Posada assumed the name "Ramon Medina," and worked as a deputy to another anti-Castro Cuban exile, Felix Rodriguez, who was in charge of a small airlift of arms and supplies to the contras in Southern Nicaragua. Rodriguez used the code name, Max Gomez. This document, released during the Congressional investigation into the Iran-Contra operations, records both Posada and Rodriguez obtaining supplies for contra troops from a warehouse at Illopango airbase in San Salvador.

¿le vale ya , Maribea?


Reply  Message 10 of 37 on the subject 
From: Amelia442 Sent: 25/10/2005 09:35
Por la parte que me toca, la opinión de Lealtad sobre mi persona, me interesa lo mismo que la teoría sobre la inmortalidad de algunos cangrejos, no me fuí de Cuba por ajustadores ( cómo dice usted sostenes? ) porque por suerte con la edad que tengo sigo sin usarlos, jajajjajajajja, no los necesito y mal hábitos inculcados por el " macao ".
 
Si a usted le produjo tanta emoción estrechar la mano del dictador, que le pusiera el brazo sobre su hombro, anda como adolescente ante un cantante de moda, pero que la psicologa es Maribea, ya estudiará ese asunto.
 
Me reitero, me reafirmo y trasnmito el sentir de millones, puedo dar testimonios, contar vivencias, Fidel Castro es un dictador, un asesino, un mentiroso y debe hacer elecciones ya.

Reply  Message 11 of 37 on the subject 
From: Amelia442 Sent: 25/10/2005 10:47
Y para más INRI, llegó el in felix de los interminables discursos y del corta y pega que nadie lee.
 
Hora de descansar y sentarse en el jardín, porque con esta " mojiganga", cualquiera, pero cualquiera diría: APAGA Y VAMOS ( no en Cuba, que siempre está apagada )

Reply  Message 12 of 37 on the subject 
From: mfelix28 Sent: 25/10/2005 11:59
Bueno Amelia, me parece que maribea SI va a necesitar ayuda, a no ser que ahora mienta tanmbien la CIA , el FBI y el New York Times.
¡ Pero que importantes se creen Uds.!
¿Creen que algun organismo USA se va a tomar la molestia de preopcuparse si lo que hace les perjudica o no?
Si  ahora para sus fines le interesa decir que castiga a Posada por terrorista, pueden Uds. encender una vela a la Virgen de la Candelaria para que no les meta a Uds. en el mismo saco.
Por cierto, Amelia, dos aclaraciones:
-Estoy casi seguro de que Ud. ya se hizo ciudadana española.
.-Maribea vive en USA, su pasaporte asi lo dice, Puerto Rico no tiene pasaporte propio, (  es lo que les pasa a las colonias), y su presidente es Bush, aunque ningún portorriqueño le haya votado: las colonias no votan.
 
Así que ( salvo Ud. , cuyo dato desconozco) ninguno de Uds., los "cubanos de la diaspora" son cubanos ( y no me haga volver a repetir las leyes actuales y las anteriores, las de 1940)
 
En Cuba hay elecciones, que ni a Ud. ni a los di$idente$ les guste ya es otro cantar.
Esos "numerosos" grupos de disidentes no se presentan porque saben que ni les conocen,
Para evita ese ridículo, sacrificaron el poder decir en su prensa " han hecho trampas en las elecciones" " no han dejado presentarse al gusanito Fulano" ¿ Que raro no?
 
Por otra parte, sus amigos escualidos van por el mismo camino, 9 veces que les ha estampado la victoria en la cara Chavez, la última con observadores a su gusto, pero nada: la OEA, Carter y 300 observadores internacionales más, estaban "comprados"
No mareen.
 
 

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From: Amelia442 Sent: 25/10/2005 13:11
Vamos a ver, me está diciendo usted in felix que en mi país se puede presentar cualquiera a elecciones?, me está diciendo que se pueden presentar los disidentes?, usted cree que son tan desconocidos?, que nadie sabe quien es Gustavo Arcos Bernes ( que le salvó la vida a Fidel en el Moncada ), qué nadie sabe que Vladimiro Roca es el hijo de Blas Roca ( el cual usted no sabe que escribió la Constitución Cubana) ?, me está diciendo usted que nadie en Cuba sabe quienes son las Dmas de Blanco o Payá Sardiñas?.
 
Indudablemente el que no se entera de nada es usted, alguna vez estuvo en Cuba?, no 21 días como turista, no así no, o es funcionario de un Consulado o Embajada?, si es así lo entiendo, este mes su " jabita " tendrá un extra.

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From: lealtad Sent: 25/10/2005 14:23
Amelia:
 
Pues vea que yo me reafirmo, sostengo y divulgo, el sentir de 100 veces más millones de personas que usted, también puedo dar testimonios, vivencias, con una ventaja, no necesito SOSTENERME.
 
Lealtad
 

Reply  Message 15 of 37 on the subject 
From: Amelia442 Sent: 25/10/2005 15:35
Y no lo repetiré más, soy cubana, nacida en Cuba, de padres cubanos, abuelos cubanos, casada con cubanos y con hijos cubanos y sepa in felix que ya le dije en cierta ocasión ,que aún saliendo de Cuba en algunos paisesn es requisito residir 5 años, 10 años y en algunos más, mientras eres cubano y bien caro que te lo cobran.
 
Como sigo siendo cubana a ver si voy y me apostulo en las próximjas elecciones, o algún amigo que me queda allá y está en el Partido ( no diré cual, para que se fastidien los que quieren saber ), se apostula y así votamos por él, porque el in felix nos vá a dar ese derecho.
 
En qué parte de la legislación o de la Constitución dice que uno se puede apostular por libre?
 
A ver si he estado yo viviendo hasta hace 3 años en un sitio que pensaba que era Cuba y vá a resultar que no lo es.

Reply  Message 16 of 37 on the subject 
From: Amelia442 Sent: 25/10/2005 16:47
Si mal no entendí, aquí la que habló de sostén y cosas materiales fué usted, así que cuide lo que le preocupa que se caíga, algunas frases en psicología se toman como " proyección ".
 
Usted habla en nombre de millones de dónde?, de qué?, de quienes?, sobre qué?, a cuántos representa?, cuántos responden detrás de usted por sus opiniones?.
 
Sin embargo yo lo puedo hacer, ya le dije que sólo hace 3 años que salí de Cuba y sigo en contacto directo con los míos.
 
Usted es cubana?, quien le dá el derecho a decir que es mejor para nosotros?, usted y cuántos más?, arreglen lo suyo, más les vale.

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From: lealtad Sent: 25/10/2005 17:59
No sé preocupe por mí, me vale un pepino que crea que proyecto algo, al menos no es una necesidad insatisfecha. Pero ya ve que el pez cae por su boca, porque sí de proyecciones o frustraciones hablaramos, que quiso decir con eso de ... CHORIZO, CHORICITO Y CHORICITICO.
 
Sabe que hablo lo que dicen cientos de millones de peronas DIGNAS, de personas que buscan un MUNDO mejor. Nadie más que yo responde por mis palabras, ellas son de mi autoría y no necesito ni el aval de nadie para emitirlas, ni tampoco el visto bueno de nadie, son mías. Las suyas?
Yo tengo también el contacto directo con los míos, además del contacto de persona a persona, en las calles cubanas, en las bodegas cubanas, en las escuelas cubanas, en los hospitales cubanos, el más reciente hace como siete meses.
Cubana de nacimiento no lo soy, pero lo soy de vivencia, porque ahí tengo mis recuerdos más lejanos y también los más cercanos. Ahí llegué a los dos años y 41 años después sigo ahí.
Ese nosotros dice mucho y nada, yo no soy quién para decir que es mejor para los cubanos, entre los cuales dudo que usted este, tampoco usted es nadie, es el pueblo cubano, el pueblo trabajador, el pueblo que no se vende por bisutería. No usted.
Y no sé preocupe estamos arreglando las cosas de modo que los lacayos, lamebotas y tirasacos no tengan cábida, dele gracias a la vida, que eso nos demorará un poquitín más, pero cuando llegué, sólo tendrán como albergue, las madrigueras.
 
Lealtad
 

Reply  Message 18 of 37 on the subject 
From: Amelia442 Sent: 25/10/2005 19:11
Su desconocimiento lo entiendo, lo de CHORIZO, CHORICITO Y CHORICITICO, es para los que conocen Cuba, era un trío de payasos, qué le parece?.
 
Así que sigue usted proyectandose, vá por un camino que nada tiene que ver con mis palabras, vaya, vaya a Cuba a ver si se entera, cucarachita roja capitalista.

Reply  Message 19 of 37 on the subject 
From: Amelia442 Sent: 25/10/2005 20:23
Usted considera sólo personas diganas a las que comparten su opinión?, vaya sentido de la libertad.

Reply  Message 20 of 37 on the subject 
From: Amelia442 Sent: 25/10/2005 21:35
Usted asegura que estoy fuera de Cuba porque me vendí por bisutería?, de dónde me conoce?, sabe cómo salí y por qué, usted es una intransigente y una absolutista y de barriga llena, de las peores.
 
Venda un poco de pulseritas, anillos y paguese un viaje al " paraiso fidelista ", después hable, pero con conocimiento de causa.

Reply  Message 21 of 37 on the subject 
From: Amelia442 Sent: 25/10/2005 22:47
Y por cierto, no esperes que me vaya para responderme, se acerca la hora de irme a dormir y reirme de tus tonterias me harán el sueño más placentero.

Reply  Message 22 of 37 on the subject 
From: lealtad Sent: 25/10/2005 22:47
INTRANSIGENTE SI, más aún con las complices de terroristas, porque el silencio nos hace complices y la negación, más complices.
 
No necesito vender nada y mucho menos mi conciencia, toda vez que voy a Cuba al menos cada 330 días (le dice algo eso), y como no hacerlo si allá están lo que más quiero en la vida, mis hijos.
 
Duerma bien y sueñe con los fidelitos
 
Lealtad


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